Thursday, February 21, 2013

Huntsman Supports Marriage Equality...

by: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
-vs- Tyranny

John Huntsman - Former Governor of Utah and Ambassador to China

There are many things to like about Jon Huntsman. A fiscal conservative Republican with libertarian leanings on some issues he has come out strong for marriage equality. This is one issues the republican leadership and representatives in Congress would do well to follow his lead.

THINKPROGRESS - Former GOP Presidential candidate and Utah governor Jon Huntsman has endorsed marriage equality. Huntsman, a Mormon whose previous support for civil unions set him (and libertarian Gary Johnson) apart from an otherwise virulently anti-gay field, came out in favor of equal marriage rights in an essay in The American Conservative entitled “Marriage Equality Is a Conservative Cause.” In the piece, Huntsman argued that if the Republican Party wants to survive, it needs to be able to appeal to gay Americans and the growing majority of all Americans that support marriage equality:

"[I]t’s difficult to get people even to consider your reform ideas if they think, with good reason, you don’t like or respect them. Building a winning coalition to tackle the looming fiscal and trust deficits will be impossible if we continue to alienate broad segments of the population. We must be happy warriors who refuse to tolerate those who want Hispanic votes but not Hispanic neighbors. We should applaud states that lead on reforming drug policy. And, consistent with the Republican Party’s origins, we must demand equality under the law for all Americans…"

"Today we have an opportunity to do more: conservatives should start to lead again and push their states to join the nine others that allow all their citizens to marry. I’ve been married for 29 years. My marriage has been the greatest joy of my life. There is nothing conservative about denying other Americans the ability to forge that same relationship with the person they love." {Read More}

I don't normally link to ultra progressive site like Think Progress, but when you're right you're right. On this issue they are,well, right.

Via: Memeorandum


  1. Good for Huntsman.

    But isn't it sad that when a politician faces reality and understands the underlying premise of marriage equality--the Constitutional guarantee of equal protection--that becomes news?

    1. Yes Shaw it is. However, there are many more who held those misguided views back in the 50's and before, it was just accepted by the majority.

      To the credit of all who have looked at the issue objectively and rationally and have changed their views I can only saw it is great. This issue is one (and there are others) the rEpublican party power base and leadership needs to change their position on to stay viable going forward. They should pay more attention individuals within the party who think like Huntsman.

  2. "Think Progress" is typically a place to go to find out what the hard "partisanship over principle" Left thinks, rather than go to for facts. But yes they sometimes get it right.

    They also operate on a definition of progress which is related to increased statism instead of better, politically-neutral dictionary definitions such as "To advance toward a higher or better stage; improve steadily:" (something that leftistss/tatists/liberals/Democrats actually oppose a lot of the time).

    1. I suppose you could say then they resemble who then, Breitbart?

      I suppose you coils say the same about the rEpublican far right, elements of the Tea Party, the neocon and socon agendas as well and you'd be right there as well.

      Statism is alive and well in the hearts and minds of many on either extreme. So, I guess if your inclined to statism you can pick your poison depending on which flavor you prefer.

    2. Since RN usualy links and quotes "Townhall" it's a breath of fresh air

    3. RN: Good point. I was thinking of Alex Jones too. Editorial/opinion places, rather than news sources.

      I could say something about the Republican far right, but like the Democrat Party far left, they are shut out of the mainstream and out of power.

      Anon: Only if you like your fresh air with a strong stench of falsehood and hypocrisy.

  3. "Since RN usually links to Townhall..."

    Correction, Occasionally is the appropriate word. And as I said, when you're right you're right.

  4. Unlike, Think Progress doesn't promote wholly false stories. The recent coverage and all their other followers promoted that was based on false information is just one example of their dishonesty and eagerness to promote any rumor that trashes the president and his appointees. They made gigantic fools of themselves. Give us an example of something as stupid as what did that Think Progress did. Doesn't exist.

    1. Being the straight forward honest guy I am I must confess, I rarely visit Think Progress because frankly I find their extreme progressive partisanship as distasteful as I find Breitbart's BS. But as I said when you're right you're right. In this instance Think Progress is right.

      I call em as I see em, and that means keeping the fingers on the pulse of both the left and the right going forward. Reason demands it. Care to join me Shaw?

    2. Yeah, sorry, Shaw. I may have Think Progress confused with Rachel Maddow.

      And I agree with RN: Think Progress got it right this time.

  5. Yeah. I'd join you in a nice glass of single malt Scotch, or an effete chardonnay!

    1. Ahh, single malt scotch. You have excellent taste! Talisker is one of my favorites. But I must say I prefer a robust full bodied French Burgundy to Chardonnay.

  6. I would love to see a Huntsman-Johnson or Johnson-Huntsman ticket and I'll bet that there are a lot of other people from across the spectrum who would as well. Maybe even the Shawster.

    1. I too would welcome such a outstanding leadership team with actual records of accomplishment.

      I'm thinking Ms. Shaw would likely be campaigning for the opposition. But of course this is only conjecture. Who knows, perhaps she can be won over should this ever become a reality.


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