Intelligence, Decency, Honesty, and Integrity Followed By A Dishonest and Ignorant Moron
As the white supremacists cheer. Their only problem is their kind is a dying breed. Hopefully soon to be as extinct as the dinasaurs they represent in human form.
Les... no doubt there are some racist folks within the anti Obama coalition, but to imply that everyone that was against the Obama agenda racist, is to play into the hands of the extremists.
ReplyDeleteI think there are principled people out there who disagreed honorably with Obama and would love to see everything he did undone.
The racist ones were the folks that made and continue to make their objections based on lies and race.
I'm guessing a few outliers will show up here to slam Obama, you, me or anyone else not in favor of Trump and claim there was never any racism directed towards the Obamas. To them I would ask this... Let's say I agree that there was in fact no racism ever directed at the Obamas by people on the right. Accepting that, let's then ask this question... If there was racism from the right towards the Obamas, what would it have looked like?
For the no racism crowd, this is the question they are unable to answer, because any answer at all, indicts many on the right that they have been at pains to defend since 2008.
Les... no doubt there are some racist folks within the anti Obama coalition, but to imply that everyone that was against the Obama agenda racist, is to play into the hands of the extremists.
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I think there are principled people out there who disagreed honorably with Obama and would love to see everything he did undone.
Agreed, there are some. They are also likely some who would keep part of his accomplisments. Me for one.
The racist ones were the folks that made and continue to make their objections based on lies and race.
Agreed, and, from all appearances there is a sh**load of those.
You'll have to forgive me Dave but I believe the lid of America's continued and festering racism was blown off with the election of one Donald J. Trump to our nation's highest office. Perhaps it is a good thing, in so long as it creates greater awareness in the American people of our problem that results in greater activism resulting in greater awareness and change for the better.
I won't hold my breath as I'll no doubt be dead and cremated long before the dinosaur mentality I refered to is gone. If it ever is.
Les... I think too, there is a difference between active and passive racism. The passive type is born mostly, IMO from a lack of experience, education or nearness to people of color. Folks just have no idea a lot of times that what they say, or do, is offensive and then they just don't care.
ReplyDeleteThey may never deny a person a job based on color, but they'll never see a post that says "But keep the Mexican food here! And those Mexicans who are so sweet and kind, too" as racially insensitive.
To them it's just a cute little ditty. To others when it is posted alongside a plate of food you'd never find in Mexico, it's just clueless. That to me is passive racism. Until they are told by someone what it is and they make a decision to continue.
Then, just like bloggers who know what they write is offensive, but publish it anyways, it becomes active.
Now go find some Heady Topper beer and enjoy it knowing full well I can't get anything like it out here in the west!
ALL the trumpers at WYD are racists, IMO. To varying degrees. The Radical Redneck being the most openly racist and FT following close behind. Rusty Shackelford is in the top three of the most racist commenters on WYD. Lisa tolerates all of them, and she 100 percent believes Obama is a Muslim and worked against America as president. The others say that Black people have lower IQs is "science" and people who dispute that "fact" are "anti-science". Mystere (who recently had one of his WordPress blogs suspended for hacking my Gravatar account and posting comments to that blog as me) desperately wants to be a member of that crowd. He probably believes Obama is a Muslim, although I can't recall any specific comments where he stated this. All the racist comments are obviously fine by him.
ReplyDeleteWYD is merely a very small example of the much larger problem that America has always had. Unfortunately in November 2016 our system elected a pResident that gives xenophobia and racism a wink and a nod. As well as further eroding civil dialog to its lowest point in my memory. The little folks at WYD are encouraged by the jack ass in the Whie House. I see no eventual end to the madness that tRump has unleased. Unless and until the conservatives and GOP realize (and actuall start to care) what tRump and his party are actually doing to America and the world.
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DeleteDerv and RN... a lot of those folks are pretty smart. FT is an accomplished pianist... as an example. But that doesn’t mean they’re decent.
ReplyDeleteLots of people have learned to disagree agreeably. Sadly few of the folks among that crowd choose to rein in their more baser instincts.
I don’t get why you guys continue to join in? Often times you get sucked right into the stench trench yourselves and give up your decently right along with the others...
Bluntly stated Dave, I visit and comment because I have had it up to my goddamn eyeballs with their lies, idiocy, and frankly... their plain old human oral shit. If that makes me less decent so be it. It is about time people started standing up and responding to them as they have responded to those who have simply had the audacity to disagree with them. They created the environment and it's timne decent folks throw it back in their stinking faces.
DeleteDid you see the response BB Idaho recieved today (over there) because he offerd a factually supported comment, one some shithead con didn't like. Those jackasses demand that which they refuse to grant. So, they can go F--k themselves.
RN... I can't for the life of me find BB's comment. But I don't doubt that he'd receive a horrible retort from those guys. You're right, the great majority of commenters there are vile, indecent and of course, factually challenged.
ReplyDeleteResponding in kind however, regardless of how good it feels in the moment, lowers us to their level. Once "decent folks" descend to that level, they cease to be decent.
You'll never change them Les... and you'll end up wearing their rot as people see their behavior in you.
With precious few days left on this earth, I just can't understand why people choose to go somewhere they are not wanted... especially if they have a choice.
And yet, I understand the desire to call folks out, especially when they lie and spew the amount of racist BS we see regularly at WYD...
Peace Les... grab a beer and enjoy it.
Sorry Dave, I wasn't clear, BB Idaho's post was at FreeThinke's joint. The response was likely from one of WYD's mentally challenged flying monkeys.
DeleteTo FReeThinke's credit he removed the rancid comment made by the con flying monkey.
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DeleteI did see it there Les and FT’s admonishment.
ReplyDeleteAnd here we are on a thread about decency and “Tom” enters in with indecency... aptly proving your point.
TOM is deleted as soon as his comment is detected, regardless what the content may be.
DeleteThe con's of the goon squad really have nothing to off but BS, indecency, or vulgarity. Why? Because the goons are smart enough to discuss issues with credible data to back them up. In other words they're just like tRump on many levels Dave.
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DeleteLike I said TOM, goons like you from convile USA have nothing of value to offer. Truth and credibility are two things foreign to your thought process.
DeleteBuh Bye...
Good job RN... hold the line. FT does it at his place, you should do it here. If ppl are unable to be decent in their disagreements, leave them in their own trench.
ReplyDeleteTom tells it like it is, but I guess you can’t handle the truth!
ReplyDeleteYou're certainly entitled to your conified narrow minded opinion The "Voice of Reason".
DeleteFor the rest of us that make up a part of the thinking world TOM is FOS as well as a vulgar offensive blowhard.
Now that we've read your drivel and appropriately respond don't bother to come back. You WILL be deleted unless you 1) address the subject matter and 2) come with VERIFIABLE info and not BS.
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ReplyDeleteSince you will not or cannot stay on topic your comment was deleleted. You, like TOM and "The Voice of Reason" will be permenantly banned from posting should you continue to post such drivel as you did this time.
Delete“Permanently Banned”
ReplyDeleteHe thinks that he’s a man of power.
Who the fuck cares!
Voice... apparently you care. Why else would you come to a place you're not wanted, comment with the language of thugs and uneducated losers and fail to address the topic at hand?
ReplyDeleteLes doesn't ask for much here... simply address the topic with decency, logic and respect.
People choose to act as the host asks, or they risk being deleted. Just like happens to people everyday at many other blogs, both liberal and conservative.
Besides Voice... we don't need Franks comment here... he's posted the same grammatical mess at Frethinke's and AOW's site.
ReplyDeleteWhy do people just run to whatever blog they like and post their unrelated thoughts?
Do you let people into your house and give them free reign to do whatever they want? That's essentially what people who expect every comment to be published are asking for.
ASS HOLE, just like your friend Dave
ReplyDeleteThis above comment will be allowed to stand. "The Voice of Reason" is indicative of the very worst that travels the highways of blogistan. Nothing these kind of people say is worth considering because they offer NOTHING of value and travel regularly in lies, deceit, indecency, and hypocrisy. They are deserving only of scorn and disdain. They are the very type that tRump depends on for support and to receive his insatiable desire for admiration and adulation. "the Voice of Reason", and those like it, are America's biggest internal problem and threat to our republic.
ReplyDelete"The Voice of Reason, you, and those like you clearly DEFINE who the real enemy of America is.
ReplyDeleteNO, YOU are indicative of the very worst scum that travels the blogosphere of America!.YOU kind of people say is worth considering because they offer NOTHING of value and travel regularly in lies, deceit, indecency, and hypocrisy. ITS PEOPLE like YOU, and your friend SHAW , as well as a few others who are not deserving of what America offers. You Progressives shit stains are the very type that Crooked Hillary depends on for support and those like you are America's biggest internal problem and threat to our republic.
You are the Bottom of the Barrel, the type of Assholes that this country needs to rid itself of.
Rational Shit stain you, and those like you clearly DEFINE who the real enemy of America
Question for you "The Voice of Reason". Did you complete grammar school? Just curious. Your grammar is terrible and your spelling isn't far behind. Both are on par with your intellect and logic.
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