Wednesday, August 3, 2016

Clinton leads Trump by 10 points, both seen as flawed... FOX News Polling Data

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FOX News, a news outlet that almost anyone paying attention knows is in Trump's hip pocket recently published polling data that shows HRC with a 10 point lead over Trump. While a majority believe HRC is dishonest they believe Trump is more so. On the issue of qualifications and temperament to lead HRC handily tops Trump.

FOX News -Sixty-one percent of voters think Hillary Clinton is dishonest, yet she’s opened up a big lead over Donald Trump in the latest Fox News Poll.

Here’s why: majorities think Clinton is nevertheless qualified to be president, and has the temperament and knowledge to serve effectively. It’s the opposite for Trump: over half feel he is not qualified, and lacks the temperament or knowledge to lead the country. And his 62 percent dishonesty rating tops hers.

After the conventions, the Clinton-Kaine ticket leads the Trump-Pence ticket by 10 points (49-39 percent) in the race for the White House. Clinton’s advantage is outside the poll’s margin of error. A month ago, Clinton was up by six points (44-38 percent, June 26-28).

This is the first time the Fox News Poll included running mates. Trump announced his vice presidential pick of Indiana Gov. Mike Pence July 15. Clinton told supporters she’d picked Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine July 22.

Since last month, Clinton’s position is improved with most groups, as she gained ground among men, women, whites, Democrats, young voters, and seniors.

The Democrat is winning among the so-called “Obama coalition,” the key voting blocs that secured his re-election. Clinton is favored among women by 23 points (57-34 percent), blacks by 83 (87-4 percent), Hispanics by 48 (68-20 percent), and voters under 30 by 18 (49-31 percent).

Given the apparent total disarray in the Trump campaign and the growing recognition how uninformed he really is (his personality aside) the idea of a landslide for HRC and possibly the entire democratic slate seems possible. Even likely.

Via: Memeorandum


  1. I think the majority believe dishonesty is better than crazy.

  2. That's a great assessment, Jerry. I don't forget that there is a large group that thinks that Hillary is totally fantastic.

  3. RN, these polls have been like a roller coaster. One day they are for Trump and the next, Hillary. I don't put any validity in any of them.

    The more people I talk to the more I wonder how either got their respective nomination. No one likes Hillary or Trump and many are talking of a write-in.

    But when you have big business, media, Hollywood and academia in bed with politicians, the person they want to win, will win.

    Our politics are corrupt. As are our officials. I'm so disheartened and really feel our country is done.

  4. I place more trust in Nate Silver's analysis and predictions than any other.

    That being said you are correct. Polls are just indicators of a set point in time, and ,as we know polls are often fluid. Given the growing criticisms of Trump by his own party, and his volatile at times personality, I thinking his candle is going to burn itself out before November. Personally I hoping for him to have a Howard Dean Moment on national television. Hopefully during a debate!

  5. The War on ISIS
    As I write this, the president is about to give a press conference. The press conference is about the progress on the war on ISIS.
    Few people know, because the media is to busy covering every idiot thing Trump says, that we are pounding ISIS.
    You won't here about that on NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, and certainly not FOX. If you seek out the information on the progress on the war, it is readily available. It's amazing the right hasn't said a word about it, especially since they are claiming Obama is doing nothing about ISIS, which of course, is just another lie about Obama from the Republicans.
    Obama is prosecuting the war exactly as he said he would and is having great success. ISIS is basically beaten on the field. Their tactics are changing because of their defeats on the field. It's the attacks around the world by small groups sometimes individuals that make the news and are killing people.
    We are at war. If you want to criticize the president on how he is prosecuting the war, then you have to know what is actually happening. While Trump was making headlines with his vitriol, our soldiers killed 250 of the enemy in one attack.
    And where are all those Republican pro military activists? No cheers for our victories? No cheers for our brave soldiers? How about it Sen. McCain?
    So back to the Republicans bitching about Obama doing nothing about ISIS, while he is winning the war against ISIS. Republicans prove their hypocrisy again.

    1. Luke here are two websites I use to get around the MSM; been reading him since the Bush fiasco in Iraq started. a newer one I am following because of the maps and live news tid bits they have. Also the "Ukraine" link at the top of the page helps understanding what is happening there. This website has a very obvious point of view, but does post news we cannot see from other sources.

      hope this helps

  6. Les, he seems to do a Howard Dean every time he's on the stage.

    Well, he may be somewhat short of an inhuman pterodactyl bellow. But not by much right?


  7. The only reason the public views HRC as dishonest is due to the decades running "vast Right-wing conspiracy". Not that HRC isn't dishonest. Barring startling revelations in the upcoming WikiLeaks release (which will put HRC behind bars, according to Julian Assange), I'd say she's no more or less dishonest than most presidents. Not counting gwb, one of our most dishonest presidents. And many Right-wingers still believe he did a great job. Heck, even those who aren't on the Right still wrongly blame gwb's war crimes on an "intelligence failure". One that Democrats are (at least) partially responsible for. "Congress saw the same intelligence" is the lie they swallow.

    Anyway, I'll vote for HRC over DJT for sure. Not that I agree with his ideology, but Gary Johnson is also a liar. A huge one, in fact.

    btw, Trump has had multiple (and way worse) Howard Dean moments*. The latest example being his attack on the Khan family. Trump asked, "I was viciously attacked by Mr. Khan at the Democratic Convention. Am I not allowed to respond?" And Chris Christie (getting it right) pointed out that NO, Trump should not have responded. Christie: "I think it [their sacrifice] gives them the right to say whatever they want whether they're right or they're wrong". (*Not that Howard Dean had a "Howard Dean moment". That's a myth).

  8. @ Luke - Those folks that you describe, and it is certainly not all republicans just the majority, are not interested in facts, truth, or sometimes not even what's good and best for America.

    Obama has made mistakes (he admitted he has) but his overall performance has been satisfactory or better. Given our current national and world reality the President has nothing to be ashamed of IMO.

  9. dmarks, a couple good off the wall bellowing and screeching episodes like Dean's would drive the nails in his political coffin.

  10. I maintain where there is smoke it is likely there is a bit of fire. I really think that to believe HRC is totally honest and forthright is at the least naive. She is a politician an few if any politicians are fully honest at all times.

    The savaging of Clinton's honesty by Trumplestiltskin is laughable given he is among the biggest liars, if not the biggest himself.

    I'll take you slam of Johnson under consideration and do some of my own research. I'm not is a particularly partisan mood at the moment. Wait, in fact I rarely am anymore. I leave that to you.

  11. Doesn't it make you wonder if Trump planned a -H- victory all along

  12. Only the gods of Mt. Olympus know what Trumplestiltskin has planned all along skudrunner.


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