Insanity in Two Flavors...

by: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
Liberty -vs-Tyranny

Speaking of INSANITY...



A judge on Tuesday accepted James' Holmes plea of not guilty by reason of insanity, setting the stage for a lengthy mental evaluation of the Colorado theater shooting suspect.

Holmes is accused of opening fire in a packed Denver-area movie theater last summer, killing 12 people and injuring 70. He is charged with multiple counts of murder and attempted murder, and prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

The mental evaluation could take months. {Read More}

Sometimes it just seems to make more sense to clean out the defective gene pool. Or does it? You be the judge...

Via: Memeorandum

Comments

  1. Shaw KenaweTue Jun 04, 06:21:00 PM EDT

    How does a government "clean out the defective gene pool?"

    That sounds sinister. Who decides? Who evaluates what is defective?

    Part of living in a free society is having to live with a defective gene pool.

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    1. Les CarpenterTue Jun 04, 07:09:00 PM EDT

      The point I am making here is that IMNHO allowing the insanity plea is insanity, given the heinous crime committed. Certainly a government cannot "clean out the gene pool", and that was simply turning a phrase I thought appropriate. If this dude who created mayhem and death in a movie theater was tried as the mass murderer he is WITHOUT being shielded by a plea of insanity then one less defective individual, one that took multiple innocent lives wound possibly be removed from society, permanently.

      I guess I just don't share the liberal tendency of some to show leniency in cases like these.

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  2. Will "take no prisoners" HartTue Jun 04, 11:04:00 PM EDT

    He was sane enough to pick out the one and only movie theater complex that advertizes itself as a "gun-free zone". To that extent he was very rational.

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    1. Les CarpenterTue Jun 04, 11:40:00 PM EDT

      Yeah Will, imagine that. Or, perhaps we're insane for not thinking the dude is insane and therefore not responsibitu for his actions.

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    2. Pamela ZydelWed Jun 05, 09:47:00 PM EDT

      He was also sane enough to dress up like the Joker on the opening night of a Batman movie.

      There are times when a person is insane. However, anymore, the lawyers use an insanity plea when it doesn't apply just to save their client's butt.

      Toss this menace in jail and throw away the key.

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    3. Les CarpenterWed Jun 05, 10:37:00 PM EDT

      I understand your compassion Pam in locking him up and throwing away the key. And I'm okay with that, but only if it is life in solitary confinment with no human contact again. EVER.

      Either that or fry the dude.

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    4. Pamela ZydelThu Jun 06, 09:49:00 PM EDT

      Les, I agree to the solitary confinement. And I'm okay with the death penalty too. We know for a fact he committed the crime. But we have to go through a trial anyway, so once he's found guilty, don't let him sit on death row for the next twenty years--take him on down to the chair, or to the room where the needles are kept.

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    5. Les CarpenterThu Jun 06, 10:30:00 PM EDT

      Amen! And I ain't religous.

      Those who have NO respect for the life of others deserve no respect from others for their life.

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    6. Ducky's hereFri Jun 07, 09:11:00 PM EDT

      Will, are you suggesting that a bunch of cowboys firing at motion in a darkened theater would have lowered the casualties.

      The faith some people have in guns eludes me.

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    7. dmarksWed Jun 12, 01:06:00 PM EDT

      Ducky: if you can provide me the name of one cowboy who was in that theatre, you might have some credibility. But I expect you can't.

      And the lack of faith you have in the choices and Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens isn't elusive.... it is prevalent and disturbing. Especially given your slavish devotion to the rulers.

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  3. Shaw KenaweThu Jun 06, 10:21:00 AM EDT

    I feel no sympathy toward this guy. But the fact is that there are insane people who commit heinous crimes. The Texas mother who drowned her children comes to mind. She was found guilty by reason of insanity, I believe.

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    1. Pamela ZydelThu Jun 06, 09:46:00 PM EDT

      Shaw, I didn't even hear of that one. I sure hope it was insanity. I just can't imagine a sane mother doing something like that. But we know it does happen and it turns my blood to ice. The insanity plea does have its place, we just can't let it be abused.

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    2. Les CarpenterThu Jun 06, 10:41:00 PM EDT

      Shaw, I think you mean "not guilty by reason of insanity", something I simply refuse to accept.

      The plea of NGBROI has been so abused over the years it makesme SICK.

      Bleeding hearts have allowed grave injustices to be committed in the name of compassion.

      I ask, compassion for who? Sometimes our sense of justice and or compasion is a bit convoluted.

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    3. Ducky's hereFri Jun 07, 09:15:00 PM EDT

      She was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was assigned to a state mental health facility.

      Reviewing the circumstance of her home life I don't think it's as easy to argue with the verdic as you might think.

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  4. dmarksFri Jun 07, 05:35:00 AM EDT

    A lot of times it is, Les. The insanity plea is a tool for dishonest attorneys who use it in their arsenal when these attorneys shamelessly lie in the courtroom in order to make sure their clients escape justice.

    But I do see a lot of what Shaw is saying. I generally oppose the death penalty, and favor it most when emotion gets the best of me and reason is in retreat.

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  5. Shaw KenaweFri Jun 07, 12:29:00 PM EDT

    Yes, RN, I typed that incorrectly. Here's Wiki's report on Andrea Yates:

    "Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity, as defined by the state of Texas. She was thereafter committed to the North Texas State Hospital - Vernon Campus. In January 2007, Yates was moved to a low security state mental hospital in Kerrville, Texas. Although psychiatrists for both the Texas State prosecutors and Yates' defense lawyers agreed that she was severely mentally ill with one of several psychotic diseases at the time she killed her children..."

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    1. Les CarpenterFri Jun 07, 01:09:00 PM EDT

      As I said, for the dude in question I'm okay with life in solitary confinement. If he's not insane, which is likely, he will go insane. A fitting conclusion to his life if this be the reality. If he is insane he won't know the difference.

      I have NO compassion for this scum, none.

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  6. dmarksFri Jun 07, 02:00:00 PM EDT

    RN: Actually I am fine with attorneys fighting to get the penalty for a serious criminal changed from the death penalty to life in prison. That's saving someone's life, after all. What I disagree with is in the cases where someone did it, and the attorney knows it, and the attorney lies their head off to try to get the criminal to entirely escape justice.

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    1. Les CarpenterSat Jun 08, 11:06:00 PM EDT

      That is what defense attorneys do. There is no honor in being a lawyer these days.

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