Voices of Reason

As Americans face the specter  of ever increasing socialism and statism, voices from the past are instructive. This however is true only if we listen to the voices and learn from the experiences of others who went before us. As Barrack Husein Obama, the Obamanation, strives  to radically change our country and its culture into an ever more socialist/statist nation words from the past can act as a warning for America.



The powerful words of Margaret Thacher are reinforced in the following:



 Words for liberty, limited government, individuality, and the hope that our nation can survive the onslaught of socialism and statism. Survive the Obamanation's desire to work against the wisdom and values of millions of finer and more qualified people. He should study the words of leaders with more gravitas and finer principals than he will ever posses.

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  1. nypSun Sep 13, 06:52:00 PM EDT

    do you find it paradoxical that Mrs. Thacher was such a strong supporter of the U.K.'s National Health Service?

    By the way, since Left Coast Rebel has decided that he finds it too intellectually uncomfortable to post my responses to his blog posts, I have started my very first blog, so that I can put up the comments that he can't bear to allow his readers to see (like my running commentary on the paradox of how someone who wants to abolish Medicare can criticize the President's plan for allegedly making minor reductions in Medicare over a ten-year period!)
    Anyway, the link is:

    http://leftcoastnotsorebel.blogspot.com/

    I promise that non-obscene comments (broadly defined, of course,) will not be censored - we wouldn't want to adopt LCP's attitude towards freedom on expression, would we

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  2. nypSun Sep 13, 06:57:00 PM EDT

    By the way, there is a terrific Jon Chait article about the new Ayn Rand biographies in the current issue of The New Republic.

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  3. Rational Nation USASun Sep 13, 08:18:00 PM EDT

    I surely shall check on the validity of your assertion that Prime Minister Thacher was a broad supporter of the U.K.'s health system. Without that knowledge I cannot comment intelligently.

    As to LCR's not posting your blog comments I can not respond. I am sure it has nothing to do with the comment being to intellectualy challenging our uncomfortable.

    I suspect it is more because he finds your circular logic and comments tiring, as do his readers I am sure.

    As for me, as a true independent conservative will allow your comments as long as I believe they warrant consideration. Should such time as I find them tiring I will simply ignore them and not personally respond.

    I however will not block your comments. Having said this, should you and your fellow progressives try to use my blog to disrupt honest and respectful discussion I will then be left with no choice but to resort to the approval process.

    Until such time as this occurs feel free to visit and comment. I will in the meantime check out your blog fpr content and worthiness to post on my blog as a progressive up for a good debate.

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  4. nypSun Sep 13, 08:43:00 PM EDT

    I appreciate the open-mindedness. By the way, there is a fascinating report just out by the Council of Economic Advisors on the macroeconomic impact of the stimulus plan through the end of the second quarter.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents/CEA_ARRA_Report_Final.pdf

    Key conclusion:
    ..our multiplier analysis and estimates from a wide range of private and public sector forecasters confirm the estimates from the statistical projection analysis. There is broad agreement that the ARRA has added between 2 and 3 percentage points to baseline real GDP growth in the second quarter of 2009 and around 3 percentage points in the third quarter.

    There is also broad agreement that it has likely added between 600,000 and 1.1 million to employment (again, relative to what would have happened without stimulus) as of the third quarter."

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  5. Les CarpenterSun Sep 13, 09:32:00 PM EDT

    Frankly these numbers are questionable at best. Unemployment while slowing considerably has not been enough to stop adding to the rolls of unemployment.

    The stimulus (bailouts) will I believe come at a staggering price in the end. The house Obamanomics is building is a continuation of the house GWB built. Both are built on a foundation of sand.

    it does not require the knowledge and intellect of a rocket scientist to know that when one spends in great excess of what one takes in sooner or later insolvency occurs.

    And please lets not go do that road of just increasing taxes with the tired argument that all altruist and socialists use. t won't work on me as I have decided long ago that to is built on a foundation of sand. Or should I say quicksand.

    I do find it interesting that the last president in recent history to end his term with balanced budgets was the pragmatist WJC.

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  6. nypMon Sep 14, 01:47:00 PM EDT

    1. It is true that after only one and one-half quarters, the President's stimulus has only slowed down the pace of job loss, and has not yet reversed it. But that already means millions of families whose breadwinner would have lost his or her job. And the program is only now getting a full head of steam.
    2. Even if one accepts your fears about the deficit (which I actually share to a certain extent,) isn't it nevertheless logically possible that a fiscal stimulus program will create jobs and stimulate an economy out of a deep recession even if it adds to long-term debts?
    3. Are you against all fiscal stimulus? For example, were you against the Bush tax cuts because they added to the deficit notwithstanding any stimulative effect they may have had?
    4. What is the "tired argument that all atruist and socialists use"? I'm not familier with it.

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  7. Rational Nation USAMon Sep 14, 05:43:00 PM EDT

    1) I am not one to explain the "tired argument that all altruists and socialist use." It is your responsibility to educate yourself as I have done.

    2) I am not against reducing the tax burden on all Americans as that in fact allows for the retention of wealth if you will so the individual can determine how best to dispose of it for themselves.

    3) My position on the creation of jobs as the Obamination and Obamanomics \view it is it is based on short term and false assumptions. The cost of which your grandchildren and great grandchildren will be responsible for addressing.

    4) The house that is built on a foundation of sand or quicksand) is doomed to eventually collapse. GWB and BHO both can pony up when it happens.

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