Thursday, March 29, 2012

Blumberg on Vigilantes...

by: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
Liberty -vs- Tyranny

(CBS News) -- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday that Florida's so-called "Stand Your Ground" law which allows those who feel threatened to use deadly force against a would be attacker is counterproductive to keeping members of the community safe.

"It doesn't make any sense because you don't want people being vigilantes," Bloomberg said in an interview with "CBS This Morning" when he was asked about the law that has come under fire in the wake of the shooting of an unarmed 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin.

"They don't have the training. They don't have the expertise. There is no oversight. That is the police department's job," Bloomberg said. {Read More}

My point exactly.

Bloomberg makes some valid economic points in the first five minutes minutes of the video, the question relative to the Trayvon Martin case is picked up at the five minute and ten second mark.

What say you

Via: Memeorandum


  1. Indeed.

    Then we need to remove the Second Amendment from our Constitution, which is the perfect right to use deadly force.

    Whether you are a corrupt government or a life-threatening criminal, the Second Amendment tells me exactly how to deal with you.

    Shooting someone in self-defense, (which is the crux of this Zimmerman case) is a far cry from being a vigilante. RNUSA, I fear you are clouding the issue here, and I say that respectfully.

    If it can be proven that Zimmerman was out looking to do some 'street justice' and Martin turned out to be a convenient target, I will return here and publicly admit my mistake. But only if it can be proven. And not in an OJ Simpson or Casey Anthony way, either.

    For any American elected official to decry the "Stand Your Ground" law is counterproductive in and of itself. Remember, an armed society is a polite society.

    By definition, a vigilante is:

    noun /ˌvijəˈlantē/ 
    vigilantes, plural

    A member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

    So is the Mayor insinuating that Zimmerman shot Martin because he knew the local police wouldn't? If so, then Zimmerman is indeed a vigilante. If not, then Zimmerman is a man who shot another because he was being assaulted.

    I'm trying to present a reasonable case here.

    Thanks for listening to my brief tirade. I anticipate you will have a reasonable retort. :)

    1. Trayvon was unarmed. While police video's "appear" to show signs of an altercation with Zimmerman it is not certain at this point in my mind. Assuming there was an altercation I do not believe the use of deadly force was the appropriate action. I also wonder why Zimmerman did not just drive away and let the police do their jobs when he was told by them they didn't need him to follow Trayvon.

      Bloomberg is I believe being reasonable in his assessment.

      The jury is still out on this...

    2. RNUSA,

      "I also wonder why Zimmerman did not just drive away and let the police do their jobs when he was told by them they didn't need him to follow Trayvon."

      Again, you don't know that he didn't. None of us do. The media paints the picture that he continued to follow Trayvon, but witnesses say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman as Zimmerman was walking to his car.

      Jury is still out, indeed...

  2. RNUSA,

    Sorry, I neglected to ask:

    When will the Mayor comment on The New Black Panther Panties Party calling for vigilante justice on Zimmerman? Or would that cause a riot in his town?

    1. I think his remark covers this, albeit in a weak way.

  3. I know that he's not perfect, Les. But the more that time goes by and Republicans and Democrats blather incessantly, the more I feel that Mr. Bloomberg is one of the very few sane politicians operating these days. Yeah, he was definitely talking some major sense there.

    1. He certainly sounds reasonable and sane on this issue.

  4. And, plus, wd hates him. That certainly doesn't hurt.......Also, One Guy 2012, are you my old buddy Donald from Bethel? I'm curious.


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