Sunday, June 5, 2011

The Debate Over Circumcision

by: Les Carpenter
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Other than the fact circumcision is generally considered a healthy choice for your baby boy it has always been an optional one. In other words, to keep it simple for the California statists {and others} parents have always had the right to keep their child's foreskin intact if they so chose.

Having been the child of parents who made a rational decision to have me circumcised before I went home from the hospital I can assure you I suffer no emotional scars from the "mutilation." In fact I remember nothing of the procedure and as near as I can tell suffered no medical issues as a result of it. Other than perhaps it provided for heightened sensitivity. Who knows, and who the hell cares? Really.

Which I guess it the real point of this post in response to the libs ridiculous assault on a practice that has been in existence since biblical times and has, well, hurt no one. At least I've had trouble finding cases of harm whether physical or emotional to anyone.

From the vaunted New York Times
SANTA MONICA, Calif. — When a group of activists proposed banning circumcision in San Francisco last fall, many people simply brushed them aside. Even in that liberal seaside city, it seemed implausible that thousands of people would support an effort to outlaw an ancient ritual that Jews and Muslims believe fulfills a commandment issued by God.

But last month, the group collected the more than 7,100 signatures needed to get a measure on the fall ballot that would make it illegal to snip the foreskin of a minor within city limits. Now a similar effort is under way in Santa Monica to get such a measure on the ballot for November 2012.

If the anticircumcision activists (they prefer the term “intactivists”) have their way, cities across the country may be voting on whether to criminalize a practice that is common in many American hospitals. Activists say the measures would protect children from an unnecessary medical procedure, calling it “male genital mutilation.”

“This is the furthest we’ve gotten, and it is a huge step for us,” said Matthew Hess, an activist based in San Diego who wrote both bills.

Mr. Hess has created similar legislation for states across the country, but those measures never had much traction. Now he is fielding calls from people who want to organize similar movements in their cities.

“This is a conversation we are long overdue to have in this country,” he said. “The end goal for us is making cutting boys’ foreskin a federal crime.”

Jewish groups see the ballot measures as a very real threat, likening them to bans on circumcision that existed in Soviet-era Russia and Eastern Europe and in ancient Roman and Greek times. The circumcision of males is an inviolable requirement of Jewish law that dates back to Abraham’s circumcision of himself in the Book of Genesis.

They say the proposed ban is an assault on religious freedom that could have a widespread impact all over the country. Beyond the biblical, there are emotional connections: checking for circumcision was one of the ways Jewish children could be culled from their peers by Nazis and the czar’s armies.

“People are shocked that it has reached this level because there has never been this kind of a direct assault on a Jewish practice here,” said Marc Stern, associate general counsel for the American Jewish Committee, an advocacy group. “This is something that American Jews have always taken for granted — that something that was so contested elsewhere but here, we’re safe and we’re secure.” {Read More}

Perhaps it is an assault on religious freedom, or the right of parents to make heath decisions for their infant child. Whatever the real underlying reason it certainly reeks of statism. It comes as no surprise to this individual that it is taking root once again in one of the most virulent homes of statism, California.

Are there not more critical and important issues facing this nation? Apparently not for some.

Via: Memeorandum


  1. I guess everyone needs a cause, so if they don't find one to their liking, they make one up.

  2. You are quite a reactionary. If one person, or group supports something; you brand all Liberas and the Democratic party as standing for these idiot causes. You are intentionally trying to whip up false issues against liberals, or you are the dumbest person in America. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you are the former. Either way your posts are always negative and I'm guessing so is your natural personality.

  3. So the first question is, "Why does he/she read your blog, unless he/she just enjoys stirring sh_t second hand?"

    The second question is, "Is this person just too stupid to make up a good ficticious name OR too spineless to use his/her real one?"

    Anonymous is SO overdone!

  4. Georges - Anon in this case is non other than the American hating TAO of the the now defunct progressive collectivist statist blog "Corrupting Conservatives."

    Our collectivist troll it seems has had many blogs. And as they each fail he reinvents himself and take his self loathing altruism and collectivism to new and previously undiscovered heights.

    My suggestion is to jest ignore his delusional and neurotic BS..

  5. Les,

    I've been trying to come up with some witty penis joke regarding this latest attempt by the whining liberals of California, but I got nothin'.

    I would say that I think it would be something if we, as a nation, could vote to release California from being in our Union, since they are nothing more than an embarrassment to us all as normal, common-sense, and rational Americans. (Well, some of us are, anyways.)

    Donald Borsch Jr in Bethel, CT


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