Keystone XL Pipeline's First Spill, 210,000 Gallons...
THE HILL - Workers took the Keystone oil pipeline offline on Thursday after it spilled 5,000 barrels of oil in rural South Dakota, officials said.I guess what we need is more deregulation
A TransCanada crew shut down the pipeline at 6 a.m. Thursday morning after detecting an oil leak along the line, the company said. The leak was detected along a stretch of the pipeline about 35 miles south of a pumping station in Marshall County, South Dakota.
The South Dakota Department of Environment and Natural Resources heard about the leak at about 10:30 a.m. Thursday, ABC affiliate KSFY reported.TransCanada estimates the pipeline leaked 5,000 barrels of oil, or about 210,000 gallons, before going offline. The company said it's working with state regulators and the Pipelines and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration to assess the situation.
TransCanada is seeking to expand its Keystone pipeline network. President Trump this year signed a presidential permit allowing the company to build the Keystone XL pipeline, which would transport as much as 830,000 barrels of crude oil a day from Alberta, Canada, to Nebraska {emphasis mine}, where it would join existing pipelines that feed refineries elsewhere in the United States.
Keystone XL, if built, would cut diagonally through South Dakota. State regulators have already granted construction permits for the pipeline.
Nebraska regulators will announce their decision on the project next week.
and more free enterprise eh?
Boy oh boy... I bet no one saw this coming...
ReplyDeleteWouldn't a Libertarian say YES to more deregulation (and an anarcho-capitalist Libertarian say get rid of ALL regulation)? The answer isn't more big government, but allowing the free market to punish corporate wrongdoing. If oil spills, those who are affected sue and customers who don't like what happened boycott. The judgment against them (and bad publicity/loss of business) will cause TransCanada to do more to prevent future leaks. That is my understanding of what the libertarian fairy tale says, at least.
ReplyDeleteYour understanding is essentially correct. Which is why I am not a big L,libertarian or an Anarcho Capitalist for sure.
ReplyDeleteLabels only seem to work when identifying extremes.
Dervish... you mean market forces won't make corporations do the right thing for society?
ReplyDeleteI'm shocked... said no smart person ever...
All pipelines leak. Here is a list of leaks in the US since the beginning of 2000 ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century )
ReplyDeleteHere is what they say about the Keystone leak.
On November 16, the Keystone pipeline leaked 210,000 gallons of oil near Amherst, South Dakota. The pipeline was shut down within 15 minutes of the leak's discovery. Despite initial denials, the spill has caused environmental damage and cleanup efforts can not remediate completely.
Note: It took only 15 minutes to leak over 200,000 gallons!
Well Jerry, maybe that's why the Obama Admin, after weighing the pros and cons of a pipeline that traversed ground sacred to Native Americans, decided not to green light it.
ReplyDeleteBut, just as many progressives predicted, a spill happened. And it didn't have to be this way.
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ReplyDeleteHope you feel better now that you got that off your mind.
DeleteNow, GET OUT - STAY OUT..
As I recall, the guy who was convinced that RN used to be an anarcho-capitalist Libertarian is in favor of the Keystone XL pipeline. However (something that occurred to me after my initial comment) is that Libertarians (including the aforementioned one) are BIG on property rights. But TransCanada is seizing people's land to build Keystone and the (aforementioned) Libertarian says that Trump's support for eminemnt domain is one of things he dislikes about him the most... so what gives? I assume RN objects to Keystone (one of the reasons, at least) is because of eminent domain taking of private property (even though his post doesn't mention this).
DeleteI object to the gubermint seizing the property of individual land owners. I find it improper, unethical, and indeed immoral. let the gubermint offer a price agreeable to the property owner.
DeleteFeel free to offer what you believe should be an exception to my statement.
I'm not familiar with this "gubermint" entity you refer to. That said, I don't believe the government should be assisting private corporations seize private property. Sometimes (to build a highway, for example) it's necessary.
DeleteOf course you are Dervish. It is what may of the big L libertarians and Anarcho-capitalists refer to our government as.
DeleteOnly if the government gives a fair price and relocates the folks to the community of their choice at the gubermint cost IMO.
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ReplyDeleteOff topic, irrelevant, and extremely childish.
DeleteGET OUT - STAY OUT.
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ReplyDeleteOff topic, irrelevant, and extremely childish.
DeleteVIVA DONALD TRUMP
ReplyDeleteDon't you mean VIVA LA BLOTUS.
DeleteAl Franken, Roy Moore, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Bill O’Reilly, Roger Ailes, and last but not least Carlos Danger.
ReplyDeleteA copy and paste from another weblog. If you have nothing relevant, informative, original, thought stimulating please STFO.
DeleteThe "Absolutely NOT Dervish Sanders" comment on FT's blog was me... in case you were wondering. I commented earlier using my account and FT removed what I wrote as soon as he saw it.
DeleteSilverfiddle said: Franken's picture was disrespectful, his unwanted kissing her was a disgusting - albeit relatively tame - assault, but you cannot feel a woman's boobs through kevlar body armor. You'll just have to trust me on that one.
Franken apologized. He should keep his Senate seat at least until the next election. Unless more accusers come forward. He shouldn't get a "pass" (I'm sure there will be some heat and fallout as a result of this coming to light). But Franken's past inappropriate actions don't even come close to comparing to Moore's. Or Trump's (a loathsome individual who had the gall to tweet about Franken) when he's guilty of MUCH worse (as he ADMITTED to Billy Bush).
This post subject... Keystone XL Pipeline spill. Yet here we are, back on Moore, Franken, and Trump's inappropriate sexual behsaviors.
DeleteSheesh.
It appears that the trolls have been successful in highjacking, or at least redirecting, the discussion.
DeleteAs much as I dislike comment moderation it does put control back in the hands of the blog proprietor when the flying Trumpanzees and other assorted semi literate cons are out and about. I suspect most have been from the apparently now shuttered WYD.
DeleteFT won't let me comment on his blog. RN *is* commenting on FT's blog and he mentioned a comment of mine (a lone one FT let go through so he could go off on me), so, not being able to comment there, I decided to respond here. RN's comment blurb does not say people MUST stay on topic. I'd already made several ON TOPIC comments, btw. (incidentally, "I apologizes" should be "I apologize").
DeleteI will make it clear... Stay on topic, refrain from referencing comments from other weblog unless it is on the same topic and it has relevancy. Please note relevancy will be determined by me alone.
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ReplyDeleteYou have no blog... BUH BYE.
DeleteBusy with lots of clean up today Les... I guess since the bots are done today at WYD, they're coming here...
ReplyDeleteMaybe. One thing is certain, you can't hope to have an intelligent and worthwhile exchange with many of the agenda driven cons on a large number of the far right wing weblogs.
DeleteThe Indonesian words in quotation below was left on this weblog in response to this post or one of the comments. Left by Anonymous we assume it from a flying monkey from one of the rightwing loonie weblogs leaving it's droppings.
ReplyDeleteMemek ku cuman satu
Translated into English it means My pussy only this one.
Certainly the type of comment we expect from the brain dead righties eh?
I SEE GHST YOUR BACK TO KISSING PEOPLES ASSES AGSIN, AND YHIS TIY IS THE FAT ASS OF S CONSERVATIVE LIKE FREE THINKE!
ReplyDeleteWELL HAVE FUN WITH THAT, BUT DONT EXPECT ANYONE TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY FROM YHIS DAY FOURTH!
If attempting to engage in intelligent discourse, recognizing there exists diverse opinion and no one is always right, and offering respect is kissing ads then I'm guilty. Discussion, modifying a position as more credible info comes to light is not kissing ass. It IS HOWEVER a sign of intelligence.
DeleteThink about anon or GET OUT and STAY OUT!
BTW aninimous, I see you left the same comment on a conserbative/libertarian weblog under a different identity. Your just the typical flying monkey.
DeleteLes... as for discussion, is it possible on many of the the left leaning blogs?
ReplyDeleteThe idea of a diverse group of people chiming in with various ideas from across the spectrum and respecting each other seems to such an unattainable goal in the blogosphere. I want to believe it is still possible, but most seem resigned to the idea the "other side" is hopelessly lost and hell bent on the destruction of either the America they once had, or the America they aspire to be.
EXACTLY.
DeleteI left a comment @ Progressive Eruptions that perhaps explains this phenomenon you speak of.
For decades, both the media and political class protected former President Clinton and his wife Hillary from questions such as the ones that Comey did. Times have truly changed.
ReplyDeleteLawmakers like Sen. Gillibrand (NY-D) are saying former President Bill Clinton should have resigned after the Lewinsky scandal.
This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Clinton/Lewinsky or Bill/Hillary.
DeleteKeep it on topic or be deleted. The choice is yours.
Consider yourself forewarned.