Thursday, August 14, 2014

The Police Weigh In On Ferguson...

by: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
Purveyor of Truth

It was bound to happen.

THE HILL - The executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police criticized President Obama Thursday for his remarks about law enforcement in Ferguson, Mo.

"I would contend that discussing police tactics from Martha's Vineyard is not helpful to ultimately calming the situation," director Jim Pasco said in an interview with The Hill.

"I think what he has to do as president and as a constitutional lawyer is remember that there is a process in the United States and the process is being followed, for good or for ill, by the police and by the county and by the city and by the prosecutors’ office," Pasco added.

Pasco harkened back to 2009, when Obama criticized a Massachusetts police officer for arresting Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, when he was attempting to break into his own home. Obama said the officer had “acted stupidly.”

"That is one where the president spoke precipitously without all the facts," Pasco said, adding that the current situation "is a much larger and more tragic incident."

Pasco said both police and members of the public are entitled to due process but said he is not convinced police have used excessive force in Ferguson.

"I'm not there, and neither is the president," Pasco said. "That is why we have due process in the United States. And this will all be sorted out over time. But right now, I haven't seen anything from afar — and maybe the president has — that would lead me to believe the police are doing anything except to restore order."

As in most situations the natural tendency is to protect, or cover for your "own."



  1. Interesting and balanced.between your two views

    Unfortunately, the racism presented by Rev. Sharpton and Jackson as they inject themselves into this (as usual) is hardly rational and balanced, and will take us surely far away from justice, better policy, and truth in this. Nor is Limbaugh helpful, of course.

    Obama, well, treats it like a possible distraction when he is trying to make a perfect putt.

  2. I read Attorney General Holder's statement and watched the President making his. I saw nothing wrong with either.

    I fail to see how the President's putting game has any relevancy to this issue other than perhaps it is the distraction.

    As to Sharpton and Jackson, well, we can always count on them to "hustle the situation." I may catch flak by saying the preceeding but it is true. Frankly at this point both are irrelevant IMO.

    Did you see Sean Hannity with the Police Cheif? Typical Hannity, questionable and boring.

  3. Would you rather have Al Sharpton give the "facts"?

  4. "I fail to see how the President's putting game has any relevancy to this issue other than perhaps it is the distraction."

    Sorry that came too far from left field. I had in mind a column I had just read, this coluimn by Dana Milbank, on the left. Quite critical of Obama. But I wonder if this is a matter of objective criticism, or he is taking Obama's side against Hillary and is now riding shotgun in the Clintonazi clown-car to help Hillary somehow.

    I didn't see Hannity with the police chief. I used to be a fan of his, but not for a long time now. As for Holder's statements, yes nothing wrong there. He can be counted on to actually do his job on occasions, when he isn't illegally arming Mexican drug lords, trying to cover up administration misdeeds and pushing his racist, supremacist agenda.

    And Obama, in regards to his statement, can be counted to put in a little work from time to time. The man who gave that speech at the DNC in 2004 is in there somewhere, but seems buried deep for a long time now.;

  5. dmarks, your comment reads like a typical right winger response. Rather than taking the high ground and accentuate the positive aspects of both Holder's statement and the President's comments you took the low road, dwelling an perceived negatives.

    Now and this situation is simply not the time IMO.

  6. I remain in disagreement with that statement. A "typical right winger" would instead be knee-jerk pro-police and make racist comments abou black protesters/rioters.

    You yourself have made cynical statement about many things. It is from this point of view, and also consideration of the President's current detachment from his job and Holder's reputation, that I made my statement.

  7. Ahh, nice spin.

    Yes, when the President or Attorney General is in my view wrong I say as much. We all should.

    However, on the other hand when they are right, as they both were in this instance we should all acknowledge it, WITHOUT qualifications or politically biased remarks which intent are obvious.

    I stand by my prior statement.

    1. No spin, just some disagreement. I already know the President is capable of rising to the high position of his office. As you insist, I will give him credit for this.


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