Friday, February 20, 2015

Ex NYC Mayor Not Racist...

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Rudy Giuliani has a way of making matters worse. First he said President Obama doesn't love his country:
“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America. He doesn't love you. And he doesn't love me. He wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up, through love of this country.”

As was to be expected Mr. Giuliani drew fire from critics who believe his remark was racist:
Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York on Thursday defended his assertion that President Obama did not love America, and said that his criticism of Mr. Obama’s upbringing should not be considered racist because the president was raised by “a white mother.”

Mr. Giuliani's full comment defending his alleged racism:
“Some people thought it was racist — I thought that was a joke, since he was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools, and most of this he learned from white people,” Mr. Giuliani said in the interview. “This isn’t racism. This is socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.”

Of course Mr. Giuliani, being the ex politician (thankfully) had more:
“I’m happy for him to give a speech where he talks about what’s good about America and doesn't include all the criticism,”

“I want an American president to raise our spirits again, like a Ronald Reagan.”

Yeah, I think we know where Mr. Giuliani stands on things.

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Via: Memeorandum


  1. I don't understand the admiration certain people on the right have for Rudy. The GOP has always prided itself on being the party of Family Values, yet Rudy is the guy who cheated on two wives, and dallied with the third one while still married to the 2nd, the mother of his children. Normally we don't care about politicians' private extra-marital affairs, except Giuliani puts himself out there as a representative of the Family Values Party, the GOP. It's more than a bit embarrassing for the people in the GOP who worry about what gay marriage will do to families, but ignore their heterosexual leaders who make those values a sordid joke.

    Giuliani's pushed to have his good friend, Bernie Kerik, named to head the Dept. of Homeland Security, except there was one "small" problem with this dear friend, he was a felon. Nice friend you got there Rudy.

    Rudy also bragged about how he "would go anywhere, any place, anytime, and wouldn't give a damn what the President of the United States said, to defend my country." Except, of course, when it was time to "defend my country," Rudy got deferments, so those words are nothing more than twaddling bravado coming from a draft-dodging coward.

    And then there's his slander about Obama's upbringing, which Giuliani believes is the reason Mr. Obama doesn't love his country the way that Giuliani does. Mr. Obama's grandparents and his maternal uncle served with distinction their country during WWII, unlike Giuliani's father who was a hired thug for the Mafia and who served time in prison as a felon, and who NEVER served during WWII. The armed forces don't draft felons.

    So all together, when we look at the truth of Rudy's background and who he REALLY is, compared with Mr. Obama's background, the facts are plain to see. President Obama shines beside that political hack. And those on the right who defend the miscreant are entirely welcome to the fraud.

  2. Some people have no shame. Over in la-la land folks are all goo-goo over Rudy for "telling it like it is". Their ideal presidential ticket would be Rudolph and Vlad apparently.

  3. I didn't realize that "telling it like it is" includes lies, exaggerations, and tons of bullsh*t.

  4. Well Jerry, for these folks in question it seems like it is.

    1. I don't think the even realize what crap they are believing.

  5. The admiration that "certain people" on the left have for President Obama I gather that Shaw does understand.

  6. Yeah. Right, Will. Because the pile of asshattery that Giuliani said in that Koch brothers sponsored event is the same as everything this president has said? Can you ever read a criticism of a jerk on the right without dragging the senseless "they admire Obama, too!" as though there's a comparison.

    This is a specific criticism of a right wing pol who stated that the president of the United States doesn't love his country. An absurd and moronic thing for anyone to say. It is particularly insidious with this president, since the crazies on the right have tried to define him as "Other," "Not One Of US," since he won the nomination in 2008. ANyone with half a brain can see what people like Giuliani are trying to do with that sort of slanderous speech.

    As far as I know, Mr. Obama never accused any of his political foes of disloyalty to this country, of not loving America, or of being a traitor to this country. More than a few on the right have said that of Mr. Obama. That's what this discussion is about. It's not a "He does it too!" contest. Mr. Obama can be admired for a lot of reasons, one of them is that he's not a political hack who questions other people's love of America.

  7. Giuliani's a moron and I've pointed it out on my blog and elsewhere. Happy? And you must have missed it in 2008 when Obama referred to Bush's deficits as "unpatriotic", in 2011 when he referred to Paul Ryan's budget (which increased spending by 40% over 11 years) as "thinly veiled Social Darwinism" and the whole 2012 campaign in which his henchmen absolutely eviscerated Romney (blaming the man for some woman's cancer death, etc.) and made him seem like an absolute monster. Sorry but it absolutely IS a "He does it, too!" contest.

  8. Will, you did not give us one piece of evidence where Obama claimed one of his opponents does not love America. Also, you may want to consider the fact that it's silly to call deficits "unpatriotic," since deficits are not people. But your own quote shows that Obama called the deficit unpatriotic, not Bush. If I told you your house is ugly, that's not the same as saying you are ugly. Get it? BTW, I'm fairly sure you're a good looking person. I was just trying to give you an example. So there you have it. None of your examples show Mr. Obama questioning any of his opponents' love of America. Not one. Giuliani is a political hack. "Giuliani: A small man looking for a balcony." --Jimmy Breslin

    1. So, if I called your actions, murderous, that wouldn't be the same as me calling you a murderer? Of course he was calling Bush unpatriotic! And those other 2 examples, no, he's not questioning the individuals' patriotism or love of country but he in the first instance and his henchmen in the latter are most definitely impugning the character of these people and it's small, quite small.


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