Tuesday, October 28, 2014

USA and Israeli Relations Fraying...

by:Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
Purveyor of Truth

America's relationship with Israel has always stood on solid bedrock. Our relationship with the state of Israel has insured it's survival in a hostile and predominately Muslim region. Most states in the region would prefer if Israel simply were vaporized.

Standing strong in support of Israel also insured we had a strong (strength built with American military hardware) ally in the region. While there have been ups and downs as there always is in relationships between allies from time to time the present relationship between the Obama administration and the Netanyahu administration is the worst USA/Israeli relations have ever been.

This certainly does not bode well for Israel and may, over the long run, have undesirable consequences for the USA if differences are not ironed out and the relationship improved. Pressure being put on Israel by the Obama administration over the West Bank settlements and the "Palestinians" may be warranted, but given the constant threat Israel faces from those who refuse to recognize her right to exist and those who desire her destruction gives weight to Netanyahu's positions.

A perspective from left leaning The Atlantic. Worth contemplating while recognizing that neither Obama or Netanyahu are completely right nor totally at fault for the icy relationship.

The Obama administration's anger is "red-hot" over Israel's settlement policies, and the Netanyahu government openly expresses contempt for Obama's understanding of the Middle East. Profound changes in the relationship may be coming.

The other day I was talking to a senior Obama administration official about the foreign leader who seems to frustrate the White House and the State Department the most. “The thing about Bibi is, he’s a chickenshit,” this official said, referring to the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, by his nickname.

This comment is representative of the gloves-off manner in which American and Israeli officials now talk about each other behind closed doors, and is yet another sign that relations between the Obama and Netanyahu governments have moved toward a full-blown crisis. The relationship between these two administrations— dual guarantors of the putatively “unbreakable” bond between the U.S. and Israel—is now the worst it's ever been, and it stands to get significantly worse after the November midterm elections. By next year, the Obama administration may actually withdraw diplomatic cover for Israel at the United Nations, but even before that, both sides are expecting a showdown over Iran, should an agreement be reached about the future of its nuclear program.

The fault for this breakdown in relations can be assigned in good part to the junior partner in the relationship, Netanyahu, and in particular, to the behavior of his cabinet. Netanyahu has told several people I’ve spoken to in recent days that he has “written off” the Obama administration, and plans to speak directly to Congress and to the American people should an Iran nuclear deal be reached. For their part, Obama administration officials express, in the words of one official, a “red-hot anger” at Netanyahu for pursuing settlement policies on the West Bank, and building policies in Jerusalem, that they believe have fatally undermined Secretary of State John Kerry’s peace process.

Over the years, Obama administration officials have described Netanyahu to me as recalcitrant, myopic, reactionary, obtuse, blustering, pompous, and “Aspergery.” (These are verbatim descriptions; I keep a running list.) But I had not previously heard Netanyahu described as a “chickenshit.” I thought I appreciated the implication of this description, but it turns out I didn’t have a full understanding. From time to time, current and former administration officials have described Netanyahu as a national leader who acts as though he is mayor of Jerusalem, which is to say, a no-vision small-timer who worries mainly about pleasing the hardest core of his political constituency. (President Obama, in interviews with me, has alluded to Netanyahu’s lack of political courage.)

“The good thing about Netanyahu is that he’s scared to launch wars,” the official said, expanding the definition of what a chickenshit Israeli prime minister looks like. “The bad thing about him is that he won’t do anything to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians or with the Sunni Arab states. The only thing he’s interested in is protecting himself from political defeat. He’s not [Yitzhak] Rabin, he’s not [Ariel] Sharon, he’s certainly no [Menachem] Begin. He’s got no guts.”

I ran this notion by another senior official who deals with the Israel file regularly. This official agreed that Netanyahu is a “chickenshit” on matters related to the comatose peace process, but added that he’s also a “coward” on the issue of Iran’s nuclear threat. ...

Maybe one day the realization will strike usb and the rest of the world the Palestinian "government"ghas no interest in peace nor do the other antagonists aligned against them.


Via: Memeorandum


  1. Why do you put Palestinians in quotes?
    That's a big part of the problem.

  2. I have no problem leaving the quote marks off "Palestinian". But that is a small part of the problem. The majority of the problem is that the Palestinian government wants to kill off all the Jewish Israelis. If they halted their one-sided aggression, their "Holocaust II", things would solve pretty quickly there.

    1. One-sided aggression? During the last flare up Israeli shelling resulted in the deaths of more than 1300 people, including 15 women and children that were killed when a shell hit a school that was also a UN-designated shelter. This attack on the school was the sixth time a UN-designated shelter was hit during the last round of violence. The UN condemned the attack as a serious violation of international law. (link).

  3. My new smart phone did it
    Seriously, I''ll throw up a couple live links Weds. for interested parties to read.

    Not such a big part of the problem. If the problem us properly understood. And proper considerations givenm

  4. IMO, two of the relationship problems involve the territorial settlements
    policies of Netanyahu and his supportive mix of Israeli right wing groups..among the latter, the
    thorny orthodox internal problems. It seems whenever the Feds hand out money, folks think there
    should be no attachements...including the Netanyahu government.

  5. Given the PLO, the positions of Hamas and other states in the region, combined with historical events it is easy to understand Israel's position. If someone has to be blamed blame the west and 1948. Israel has to live with the results.

    To exonerate the PLO and other groups from blame however simply blows my mind.

  6. Some links as stated yesterday:


    My work is done.

  7. Friction between the USA and Israel is not new. Bush #41, Clinton, and Nixon had less than warm relationships with Israeli governments that were downplayed by the State Department. This time around, Net-N-Yayoo is in charge, and everything they say about him is true. He's the Dick Cheney of the Middle East.

  8. That may very well be true (O)CT(O)PUS. But for me at least the issue goes beyond one man and his cabinet and the players on the other side are nasty IMO. Referencing there government or leadership.

  9. RN. Right... the "players on the other side" aren't that much removed from ISIS.

  10. This cartoon in an Israeli newspaper has apparently offended many people. The Israeli government is incensed (in an attempt to downplay the friction between Tel Aviv and Washington). Commentators are incensed because the cartoon invokes bizarre conspiracy screeds of anti-Semites who blamed 9/11 on Israel (like Waylon's outrageous crap posted at FeetStinke's place).

    Nevertheless, a case can be made for international intervention. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is no longer a local matter to be settlement amongst themselves - and hasn't been for decades - not since the Munich Olympic massacre 40 years ago. Maybe it is time for adults to step in and impose a peace settlement.

  11. I agree in principal (O)CT(O)PUS. Of course adults steping in may do little good unless the "children" are willingto listen And I do kean the "children" on both sides..


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