Sunday, February 10, 2013

Dick Cheney the Old Guard Neo-Con...

BY: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
-vs- Tyranny

Ex Vice President Dick Cheney continues to advocate for United States intervention into every conflict across the globe while criticizing Obama's nominations for cabinet posts to key national security positions. In essence supporting the idea that the USA ought to be the world's police force and arbiter of ethics and mortality.

It seems to me the prior administration did nothing to either enhance our nations world standing or create a safer world environment by their ill conceived excursion into Iraq. But perhaps the more we get it wrong the more right it will eventually turn out to be. Old Guard Neo-Con logic 101.

CBS - Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Saturday night that President Barack Obama has jeopardized U.S. national security by nominating substandard candidates for key cabinet posts and by degrading the U.S. military.

"The performance now of Barack Obama as he staffs up the national security team for the second term is dismal," Cheney said in comments to about 300 members of the Wyoming Republican Party.

Cheney, a Wyoming native, said it was vital to the nation's national security that "good folks" hold the positions of secretary of state, CIA director and secretary of defense.

"Frankly, what he has appointed are second-rate people," he said.

John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, has been confirmed as secretary of state. CIA designate John Brennan and defense secretary nominee Chuck Hagel are still awaiting U.S. Senate confirmation.

Wyoming's two U.S. senators, Mike Enzi and John Barrasso, voted for Kerry's confirmation. Both Enzi and Barrasso gave introductory speeches for Cheney Saturday night.

Cheney said Hagel, a former Nebraska U.S. senator, was chosen because Obama "wants to have a Republican that he can use to take the heat for what he plans to do to the Department of Defense."

He said Obama's plans are to allow severe cuts in U.S. defense spending, which would limit the capability of the U.S. military to respond to future foreign crises well after Obama has left office.

"He is today ... establishing what limitations will be on future presidents," Cheney said. {Read More}
Via: Memeorandum


  1. While it's true that Hagel didn't exactly tear it up the other day, I'd still take him and his 2 Purple Hearts over Cheney and his 5 deferments any day.

  2. "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." Dick Cheney--March 16, 2003

    "We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." Dick Cheney--March 16, 2003

    "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." Dick Cheney-- on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005

    Why anyone listens to anything this guy says is a mystery to me.

    1. Why anyone listens to anything this guy says is a mystery to me.

      For once, Shaw, we agree. I *facepalm* myself each and every time people believe this man speaks for me as a Conservative, since, well, he ain't.

    2. "Why anyone listens to anything this guy says is a mystery to me."

      The same reason they listen to Obama and his "the opposite ended up happening" predictions on massive per-month job increases, shovel ready jobs, the deficit and debt, democracy in Egypt... and the list goes on and on and on.....

  3. The great thing about when Dick Cheney speaks is that you know the opposite must be true.


    1. Hello kettle? Yes, this is pot. You're black.

      Oh, Florida McJones. The things you say...

    2. Fortunately, ConFire3, most Americans agree with me on this. You're in that tiniy minority who can just never admit you were wrong. Like Dick Cheney.


    3. Flordia McJones,

      And most people here at RNUSA, who have common sense, agree with me that your comments are hardly plausible and believable. Just like Dick Cheney's. Best part is, there is a paper trail that can be referenced highlighting your stellar comments.

      You however, simply cannot admit that you are wrong. Like 90% of the time. Like Dick Cheney.


    4. Well, here at RN, among libertarians, objectivists and conservatives, I am in the minority. Among the general population, about a quarter of the population are pretty much like me, politically. When it comes to Dick Cheney, I am among a substantial majority, even among many libertarians, objectivists and conservatives.

      Oh, and common sense is for morons.

      Now, what am I wrong about?


    5. Oh, and do you have some kind of problem with Florida?


    6. Naw, Jersey. I think Cheney is and was pretty good at telling it like it is.

  4. I've noticed that there are certain people who seem to bring us all together. Gingrich is one and Cheney is obviously another.

  5. Yes, indeed! That Dick Cheney is like Tricky DIck Nixon a really really really BAD BAD BAD guy.

    His health is so bad he should have been dead years ago, but still he lives on. Proof, I guess, that only the good die young.

    ANd his lesbian daughter is just what Alan Keyes said she was, "A selfish oligarch."

    Barack Obama is just the antidote we've needed to counteract all the poison generated by pawns of the Israel Lobby no doubt.

    Bea Littler

  6. The man has a heart transplant. No doubt from another ferret.

  7. Anon said: "Barack Obama is just the antidote we've needed to counteract all the poison generated by pawns of the Israel Lobby no doubt."

    Another member of the neo-nazi contingent heard from. Expecting Obama to save us from the Jew.

  8. Now to address what RN said: "Ex Vice President Dick Cheney continues to advocate for United States intervention into every conflict across the globe"

    There are so so many conflicts. Is and was this quantifiably true? I do recall him advocating fighting back against a couple of terrorist regimes that attacked us.

    However, I can think of numerous conflicts in Africa, for example.... ones I don't recall Cheney muttering a peep on. Did he really advocate US intervention in all of these? Or were you exaggerating to the point of not being factual... something I don't recall you usually doing.

    I even found reference to this multi-faceted regional conflict which Cheney apparently opposed involvement in: "Cheney took a strong stand against use of U.S. ground troops in the vicious civil war in Bosnia between Serbs, Croats, and Muslims that began in April 1992" (from And on another conflict, Darfur, he seemed to support only a very low level (non-) involvement. In fact, the more I check, it seems like Cheney supported intervention in only a few of the "conflict[s] across the globe" instead of "every" one.

    Or do you have something that contradicts this?

  9. Perhaps I over reached to accentuate my central point. One I continue to stand firmly by.

  10. I do disagree with you also about "create a safer world environment" by fighting back against Saddam Hussein. That's one of the world's very major terrorist kingpins out of the way. A major threat removed. Ill-conceived? Perhaps, in execution.... especially in light of what Will and others have pointed out as alternative ways to take care of the problem that could have been quicker and had a lot fewer casualties.


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