Friday, October 28, 2011

Catholic University Faces Complaint of Human Rights Violation by Muslim Students

by: Les Carpenter
Rational Nation USA
Liberty -vs- Tyranny

I am not religious. I do respect the right of all peaceful religions to worship as their theocratic theological (religious) dogma would have them. How they worship, or the symbols of their religion do not affect me. Unless they are engaged in trying to force change in places they have no moral or legal right to do so.

Which is precisely why the following article reporting on Muslims attempting to force change on Catholic University {a private institution} because of alleged human rights violations should tick everyone of rational mind off greatly.

The Washington, D.C. Office of Human Rights confirmed that it is investigating allegations that Catholic University violated the human rights of Muslim students by not allowing them to form a Muslim student group and by not providing them rooms without Christian symbols for their daily prayers.

The investigation alleges that Muslim students “must perform their prayers surrounded by symbols of Catholicism – e.g., a wooden crucifix, paintings of Jesus, pictures of priests and theologians which many Muslim students find inappropriate.”

A spokesperson for the Office of Human Rights told Fox News they had received a 60-page complaint against the private university. The investigation, they said, could take as long a six months.

The complaint was filed by John Banzhaf, an attorney and professor at George Washington University Law School. Banzhaf has been involved in previous litigation against the school involving the same-sex residence halls. He also alleged in his complaint involving Muslim students that women at the university were being discriminated against. You can read more on those allegations by clicking here.

Banzhaf said some Muslim students were particularly offended because they had to meditate in the school’s chapels “and at the cathedral that looms over the entire campus – the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception.”

“It shouldn’t be too difficult somewhere on the campus for the university to set aside a small room where Muslims can pray without having to stare up and be looked down upon by a cross of Jesus,” he told Fox News.


Banzhaf said that it is technically not illegal for Catholic University to refuse to provide rooms devoid of religious icons.

“It may not be illegal, but it suggests they are acting improperly and probably with malice,” he said. “They do have to pray five times a day, they have to look around for empty classrooms and to be sitting there trying to do Muslim prayers with a big cross looking down or a picture of Jesus or a picture of the Pope is not very conductive to their religion.”


Garvey {the University President}, in his 2010 interview with NPR, addressed that issue.

“It’s just not something that we view as an activity that we want to sponsor because we’re a Catholic institution rather than Muslim,” he said.

Patrick Reilly, the president of the Cardinal Newman Society, an organization that promotes Catholic identity among Catholic schools, seemed stunned by the complaint.

“I don’t know what the attorney wants them to do – if he wants them to actually move the Basilica or if the Muslim students can find someplace where they don’t have to look at it,” he told Fox News.

Catholic University, he said, is a Catholic institution.

“One wouldn’t expect a Jewish institution to be responsible for providing liturgical opportunities for other faiths and I wouldn’t expect a Catholic institution to do that,” he said.

“This attorney is really turning civil rights on its head,” he said. “He’s using the law for his own discrimination against the Catholic institution and essentially saying Catholic University cannot operate according to Catholic principles.”

Read coverage from Catholic University’s student newspaper by clicking here.

the facts are:

A) Catholic University is a private institution of higher learning.
B) Students make the decision to attend Catholic University by their own free choice, even the Muslims who matriculate at CU.
C) Before entering the university all students, and their parents visit the campus and learn about the institution.
E) Given the above, all students {including the Muslim students} are fully aware of the conditions into which they are entering.

So, what's the problem? What moral or legal right do the Muslim students believe supports their {and their representative} position? What do they not understand about the choice they made, and how it would impact their lives while attending CU? Do they really believe their human rights have been violated, even given they made a free choice to attend CU?

What is even more disturbing is there are many who will side with the irrationality of their complaint. Truly disturbing. What once was largely a given in America, that one accepted the consequences of their free and independent decisions is rapidly vanishing. We can thank political correctness, accompanied by increasing thin skinned people for the change.

More @ The Conservative Guild and @ just a conservative girl

Via: Memeorandum


  1. They probably entered the college with this very lawsuit in mind. The muslims have learned to use our political correctness as their weapon, and we stubbornly insiste on helping to inflict our own mortal wound.

  2. Jim a Conservatives on Fire blogged on this as well. I apologize in advance for saying almost the same thing here.

    Catholic Universities ceased being Catholic institutions long ago. Too much government money corrupts anything in the end, even those commonly acknowledged as "private" .

    We have no more property rights, thanks to the “public accommodations” rubric employed by civil rights law to solve the bigotry of private property owners.

    I predict the Muslims will get there way on this. They have the best PR mojo, their grievance machine is well-funded, and we are all too stupid to understand what’s really going on.

    Smythe is right. I suspect this was deliberately planned-out in advance. There will be minarets on the basilica before this is all over with.

  3. This reminds me of the religious bigots who get the ACLU to fight to censor religious expression they don't want to see. The un-American, hate the First Amendment types who get all in a tizzy because they might glimpse expression of someone else's religion somewhere in their field of vision.

    My word to them? Sit down and shut up. If you don't like it, ignore it.

    "Smythe is right. I suspect this was deliberately planned-out in advance. There will be minarets on the basilica before this is all over with."

    Minarets on the basilica: this sort of thing DID happen when the Islamic empire conquered part of southeastern Europe and desecrated Christian holy sites.... putting the lie to the claim that Shariah/terrorist "law" respects different faiths.

  4. Thanks for the linky love. Always appreciated. I wouldn't be a bit surprised that was planned out in advance.

    My nephew thought about attending there and I took him on the campus tour. You know exactly what you are getting into when there.

    And by the way, Catholic does better than most other Jesuit schools to stand by it's principles. i.e. Unlike Notre Dame, they would never have a very pro life politician giving the commencement speech.

  5. Your welcome, my pleasure just a conservative girl.

    I think Gorges and you are right. Planned in advance. It still defies rational thought.

    Until liberty minded people raise their voices in unison, and VERY loudly in defense of reason and property rights this kind of irrational crap will continue.

  6. This is a rare time I gotta agree with Dmarks. In fact I agree with Silverfiddle and Mr. Smythe also.

    It's a sad deal because most universities get some kind of public financing or dollars from tuition grants or loans or whatever. The jerks with an agenda will try to tie this in as a federal thing andf make private institutions adhere to the same rules as public. You'd think they could find better use of their time and intelligence to help the world.

  7. Well, maybe the geniuses over at the "private college" should not admit Muslims? No? Of course not. Give 'em a little space and be done with it. Why act like a petty little schmuck?


  8. jmj - You miss the point entirely. No you're too smart to miss the point. You just have another agenda.

    But lets hold that for another day. I must get rested now for the morrow.

  9. >No you're too smart to miss the point.

    Oh, I think you're overestimating him. He's a proven expert at missing the point.

  10. "Give 'em a little space and be done with it. Why act like a petty little schmuck?"

    The "petty schmucks" are those who get into a tizzy because there's stuff on the walls that they don't like.

  11. cathedral that looms over the entire campus

    All who enroll at CUA know that fact well in advance before arriving.

    CUA's mistake: allowing courses in Islamic studies on a Catholic campus. This brought in Muslims by hordes. Once arrived, some of them apparently decided to Islamify CUA.

  12. dmarks and Bastiat, as far as I'm concerned everyone involved is a superstitious idiot, so whatever.

    Les, my only agenda was to point out that if a "private" institution takes a group of people of a unique culture, then they could at least give them a little token of appreciation.

    It's called not being a schmuck.

    That was my agenda.

    I thought you'd concur, to be honest.


  13. Jersey: Your own religious faith says they are superstitious. Those of different faiths disagree.

    As far as I am concerned, they are pathetic human beings for getting upset over what others have on their walls.

  14. dmarks, do you really think I'm religious? Dude! What planet are you from?


  15. The same planet as you. I have seen you make faith assertions about deity here. You aren't theistic, but you do come across as a person asserting a faith about God, etc.

    People who lack religion don't make such assertions.


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