tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post8663243585599439095..comments2024-03-28T03:00:07.229-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Nothing Like a Dose of Liar Cheat & Thief to Get Me Back on the Political TrackLes Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-52035558570837396542011-04-09T22:44:22.386-04:002011-04-09T22:44:22.386-04:00JMJ SAID The "Feds" don't own "...<i>JMJ SAID The "Feds" don't own "Banks, mortgage and car companies." That's just silliness.</i><br /><br />JMJ: Are you telling me that while I was on hiatus that GM & Chrysler paid back their loans! The Government no longer has ownership in either? And that our Government (Feds or whatever you’d like to call them) did NOT dish out $600 billion dollars to hundreds of banks, mortgage companies and insurance companies under TARP? And if you do tell me that they did-- are you saying that they paid back ALL that money, again, while I was on my short hiatus? Wow! Even after 142 of those banks/mortgage co’s/INS co’s missed payments in February! Not to mention over 120 of them hadn’t made payments in the last quarter of 2010! Considering people are being foreclosed on left and right, I’m wondering HOW those banks are making money! It’s a miracle! (See I CAN be silly!)<br /><br />Again, let’s GET SERIOUS. The Government DOES own the TWO LARGEST mortgage entities in the country, Fannie and Freddie. Plus 33% of GM, and 9% of Chrysler. So, I stand on what I said, that our government owns car companies, banks AND mortgage companies. <br /><br /><i>Our immigration laws stink</i>--Depends on perspective. Never-the-less, it’s still the law and needs to be followed. Because to YOUR way of thinking, since I personally don’t like the smoking laws, I can break them. It doesn’t work that way. If a law “stinks”, then it needs to be changed, NOT broken. <br /><br />Okay, I’m so tired of hearing the old crap about how politicians have been corrupt forever so it’s no big deal. Maybe if we had put a stop to their shenanigans eons ago we wouldn’t have half the problems we are stuck with now. Just because something has become a habit doesn’t make it RIGHT!Pamela Zydelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00455065276657597689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-13984914836229378942011-04-09T13:14:56.025-04:002011-04-09T13:14:56.025-04:00JMJ - First, Pamela and Siver are right by any rat...JMJ - First, Pamela and Siver are right by any rational considerations.<br /><br />Secondly, Why is it that progressives absolutely refuse to recognize any valid point other than their own cherished positions? <br /><br />You have actually just exposed which party would have been the responsible party for a government shutdown should it have occurred.<br /><br />I am actually hoping for a shutdown on the 2012 budget. But only if the issues in doing so are actually meaningful.<br /><br />This last fiasco was nothing more than... RAW POLITICS with no real substance.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-31719240357832478342011-04-09T10:55:14.729-04:002011-04-09T10:55:14.729-04:00Fiddle, if fiscal conservatives win, then what are...Fiddle, if fiscal conservatives win, then what are you guys complaing about?<br /><br />Pam has been diverted from the serious issues, like so amny other Americans. The "Feds" don't own "Banks, mortgage and car companies." That's just silliness. Heck, if anything, it's the other way around. Student loans should be public. They should not be profiteered. Neither should healthcare. These are serious public concerns, not widgets. Our immigration laws stink and that's why they don't work. Anecdotes of politicians commiting various crimes and breaches of ethics are nothing new and not a serious problem. It is the institutional corruption - like the Citizend United decision - that is truly wrecking the nation.<br /><br />You guys are just focused on the nonsense.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-63497577111008194382011-04-09T10:02:53.048-04:002011-04-09T10:02:53.048-04:00We are not serious, and that is they key issue you...We are not serious, and that is they key issue you've identified, Pam.<br /><br />No shutdown this time, and I for one am glad, because I think the GOP would have lost the propaganda battle. Hooting lefty loons, their agitprop and sob stories will win every time.<br /><br />Shutting it down would have solved nothing and cleaned nothing out.<br /><br />Paul Ryan's plan is what we should be focusing on. He's crafted a head-on approach and invites other adults to join him in debate. That is how fiscal conservatives win, because the screaming liberals will look stupid and unhinged if they fail to engage him rationally. And I think many on the left are incapable of rational discussion on this issue.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.com