tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post4281414066854037326..comments2024-03-28T03:00:07.229-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Okie Conservatives Contemplate Preventing All Marriages...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-44495612983035103512014-01-26T11:40:29.029-05:002014-01-26T11:40:29.029-05:00RN said: "Correction next to last paragraph.....RN said: "Correction next to last paragraph..."<br /><br />I've been reading you enough, and surely Jerry has also, to know what you meant in your statement, despite the mistake.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-84891122258893782422014-01-26T11:33:39.730-05:002014-01-26T11:33:39.730-05:00You missed the point Jerry, I think. I must not be...You missed the point Jerry, I think. I must not be stating my point clearly enough perhaps?<br /><br />Or is it partisan lines confine, religous or secular?Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-46316527027853188292014-01-26T11:25:30.968-05:002014-01-26T11:25:30.968-05:00I don't believe that any state requires that m...I don't believe that any state requires that marriage, same sex or not, be performed in a "House of the Lord". It is up to the individual church.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-66660927335788568702014-01-26T10:55:11.652-05:002014-01-26T10:55:11.652-05:00"Marriage is a contract between three entitie... "Marriage is a contract between three entities. A man and a women (were talking traditional, conventional religios marriage) , and their God."<br /><br /><br />God doesn't do contracts. If anyone believes that, then we have to conclude God is lousy at them, since in the part of the country (the Bible Belt) where he is most revered, his "contracts" are the most broken.<br /><br />As for this Oklahoma nut legislator, his proposal was good for a couple of loud HARDY-HAR-HARS. . <br /><br />Now someone should tell him to go back to <a href="http://tinyurl.com/k9p8r8b" rel="nofollow">eating paste.</a> That's less harmful than his legislative ideas, and it amuses the groundhogs.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-9593429498631258652014-01-26T09:38:28.691-05:002014-01-26T09:38:28.691-05:00Correction next to last paragraph... "have no...Correction next to last paragraph... "have no personal belief that same sex couples shoult NOT be married, ..."Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-14305545772076198252014-01-26T09:32:41.730-05:002014-01-26T09:32:41.730-05:00Well yes Ducky, of course. Marriage is a contract ...Well yes Ducky, of course. Marriage is a contract between three entities. A man and a women (were talking traditional, conventional religios marriage) , and their God.<br /><br />Civil marriage, usually performed by a JP (Justice of the Peace) can be argued is a contract between a couple (either straight or gay/lesbian) and the State. Which is why many religous individuals have no issue with civil same sex unions but oppose same sex marriage performed in a "House of the Lord. I fail to understand why progressives fail to get it.<br /><br />Now to the point of the post. Why do YOU think Okie consevatives like the guy in the video are putting forth this idea?<br /><br /> For the record, me and the misses were "married" by a JP, or put another way agent of the state. #2 for the record, I'm libertarian (but not a LP or Republican party member) and have no personal belief same sex couples should be married, but I'm an atheist, many deeply religous individuals simply believe this wrong, on religous grounds. While I disagree I respect their right to believe as their religous values guide them.<br /><br />Perhaps the issue of same sex marriage in a "House of the Lord" should be left to the Church to decide.<br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-64280496014174664772014-01-26T09:04:14.469-05:002014-01-26T09:04:14.469-05:00Ducky: The person not getting it here is you. The ...Ducky: The person not getting it here is you. The problem is the state treating it as anything other than a contract.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-25329907047083870522014-01-26T01:36:12.911-05:002014-01-26T01:36:12.911-05:00The state is involved and will continue to be invo...The state is involved and will continue to be involved because civil marriage is a civil contract and the state is quite properly involved in contracts. <br /><br />It's simple. i don't see why libertarians don't get it.<br />Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-73878054999189399222014-01-25T18:53:10.464-05:002014-01-25T18:53:10.464-05:00Who says that Neanderthals (especially those who a...Who says that Neanderthals (especially those who are still a little wet behind the ears like this dude) can't think outside the box?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-79461536708199871072014-01-25T18:47:40.628-05:002014-01-25T18:47:40.628-05:00Wait until the Oklahoma bridal shops and diamond s...Wait until the Oklahoma bridal shops and diamond stores weigh in.BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388509941702241290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-91319183026360918722014-01-25T17:47:20.584-05:002014-01-25T17:47:20.584-05:00I am completely with you on the first paragraph (I...I am completely with you on the first paragraph (I guess Jersey sees that as "Big Daddy State Conservatism"). The rest...what you describe of others... is so weird.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.com