tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post2179182535584889136..comments2024-03-28T15:24:53.579-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Illinois Democrats Move To Tighten Firearm Regulation/Restrictions...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-48441146490148251372013-01-10T14:32:01.149-05:002013-01-10T14:32:01.149-05:00Anon,
Knowing that statistically, according to th...Anon,<br /><br />Knowing that statistically, according to the FBI data gatherers, that I am more at risk of being shot by a person with a handgun than a semi-automatic rifle with an extended clip, your words ring true.<br /><br />The guy holding an AR15 is a visible threat, and hence can be adjusted for. The guy with a concealed handgun, well now, how does one adjust for that?<br /><br />"Assault weapons" is a term coined by the gun-grabbers (with the help of the old media), designed to instill fear and suspicion of any rifle that looks like one they saw in a movie, and is therefore bad and evil. Technically speaking, a semi-automatic gun, be it a handgun or a rifle, is not an assault weapon. To earn that moniker, a weapon needs to have full auto capabilities. (I'm presuming you know this, and I am not lecturing you by an means! I am typing this for the sake of the uninitiated.:))<br /><br />Dianne Feinstein, for example, considers a mere .22 caliber squirrel gun as an 'assault weapon' that demands banning. I would guess she sees a handgun and automatically assumes it's a Glock, and that all rifles are AK47's. *facepalm* So it goes with the gun-grabbers.ConFire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/12768451728170362416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-18377088101721716482013-01-10T10:00:18.552-05:002013-01-10T10:00:18.552-05:00JMJ,
Currently, CURRENTLY, gun manufacturers are...JMJ,<br /><br /><br />Currently, CURRENTLY, gun manufacturers are behind in their orders due to such a high demand for firearms. There is a 6-month to one year waiting period for firearms here locally in CT. I should have specifically mentioned this is a local occurrence, my mistake.<br /><br />Of course there are illegal guns on the streets. That comment of yours made no sense in the context of what I said. I am not talking about illegal guns in the hands of criminals, I am speaking of you and I going to a legal gun shop, following the law, and seeking to buy a new firearm fom said dealer. They ain't there. The shelves are bare.<br /><br />I am sure if you put your mind to it you could easily acquire an illegal firearm in New Jersey. But at what possible cost? Jail time ain't worth it. <br /><br />So are you going to take me up on my challenge? Go and prove to us all that this gun show loophole exists and is rampant. You would be a liberal hero, JMJ, and for a good 10 minutes they would glorify your name. Go for it. You have nothing to lose.<br />ConFire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/12768451728170362416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-14799768792639374952013-01-10T09:52:02.486-05:002013-01-10T09:52:02.486-05:00@ "To wit, I wrote, "Those two seconds c...@ <i>"To wit, I wrote, "Those two seconds could be the difference in 10 people getting shot and 20 people getting shot."</i><br /><br />Another ignorant comment from Jersey. Were this true, the military would do away with 10 round magazines and issue 100 round drums to everyone, but that is not the case. Once again, a person ignorant of arms makes pompous, fact-free pronouncements.<br /><br />Here's another hint for you Jersey: The higher capacity magazines have a much higher failure rate. Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-35694117462716464402013-01-10T09:48:42.094-05:002013-01-10T09:48:42.094-05:00Weak, Jersey: You've provided no facts, just ...Weak, Jersey: You've provided no facts, just leftwing propaganda. Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-71777078925908959362013-01-09T21:40:07.726-05:002013-01-09T21:40:07.726-05:00If the gun manufacturers weren't producing eno...If the gun manufacturers weren't producing enough guns (shortages in particular local markets aside) then why are there so many "illegal" guns all over the streets?<br /><br />Osmosis?<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-68649252850469314272013-01-09T14:58:10.408-05:002013-01-09T14:58:10.408-05:00JMJ,
Bogus. The gun manufacturers are behind in t...JMJ,<br /><br />Bogus. The gun manufacturers are behind in their products, and local firearms dealers are giving a 6-month to a year waiting period.<br /><br />I would challenge you, if possible, to attend a local firearms show in NJ and see if you can buy a firearm under the table, sans background check. If you succeed, then take photos, go to the local cops and turn in the moron who would sell you a weapon without verification.<br /><br />If you are successful, you will score one for the gun lobby, and you will be a hero to the anti-gunners. A win-win for you.ConFire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/12768451728170362416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-83371875937482527132013-01-09T12:17:17.330-05:002013-01-09T12:17:17.330-05:00"Assault weapons with extended magazines are ..."Assault weapons with extended magazines are what is at issue"<br /><br />That's the issue the media has created.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80026594543302134082013-01-09T05:48:35.785-05:002013-01-09T05:48:35.785-05:00Lines are being drawn that doesn't bode well f...Lines are being drawn that doesn't bode well for or do anyone or eiher "side" much good.<br /><br />My position is, and has been quite clear. Support the the right to keep and bear with reasonable restrictions.<br /><br />Assault weapons with extended magazines are what is at issueLes Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-26708982227392933952013-01-08T13:47:25.783-05:002013-01-08T13:47:25.783-05:00Les, I just posted this over at Perigon Media. Tho...Les, I just posted this over at Perigon Media. Thought you might want to peruse it and give me an evaluation. I would welcome your critique, if warranted. Oh, and the same invitation is extended to Silverfiddle, as well.<br /><br />http://www.perigonmedia.com/questions-for-the-anti-gun-crowd/<br /><br />Thanks. I see my new Google/Blogger screen name is working. Yay.ConFire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/12768451728170362416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-10770107169907322442013-01-08T03:11:35.049-05:002013-01-08T03:11:35.049-05:00The gun manufacturers are producing more guns than...The gun manufacturers are producing more guns than the legitimate market can absorb, meanwhile in many states, throughout the south and mid-west, gun show stings have stopped thousands of potentially dangerous sales. How many more went unnoticed?<br /><br />Nevada, Virginia, Florida, Pennsylvania - all these states were lax on gun sales. THOSE ARE THE NAMES.<br /><br />Look it up and be informed for a friggin' change, Silver.<br /><br />Find some new sources of information. It's good for the brain.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29177719449630935562013-01-07T20:30:41.137-05:002013-01-07T20:30:41.137-05:00Les,
Using my Google account name to post test. S...Les,<br /><br />Using my Google account name to post test. Sorry.ConFire3https://www.blogger.com/profile/12768451728170362416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-58805365705898234942013-01-07T18:29:13.270-05:002013-01-07T18:29:13.270-05:00I am sure the founders individually felt much as y...I am sure the founders individually felt much as you, and I do about principles. The War of independence was about lofty principles. When America gained independence the principled founders found a way to do what was ultimately necessary... Compromise to achieve the goal and greater good. I understand this. It is in a nut shell all I'm saying.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-27572243845947811212013-01-07T13:56:03.589-05:002013-01-07T13:56:03.589-05:00I can't think of anything you say, Mr. Borsch,...I can't think of anything you say, Mr. Borsch, that isn't FOX boilerplate clap-trap. Including the adolescent insults.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-65845422629306579292013-01-07T13:55:17.484-05:002013-01-07T13:55:17.484-05:00I can't think of anything you say, Mr. Borsch,...I can't think of anything you say, Mr. Borsch, that isn't FOX boilerplate clap-trap. Including the adolescent insults.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-62392731175022022262013-01-07T11:08:50.577-05:002013-01-07T11:08:50.577-05:00Les,
You said:
"Present conservatism in Amer...Les,<br /><br />You said:<br />"Present conservatism in America poses many undesirables. The alternative lies in objective thought that is not driven or controlled by pure ideology. Both the left and the right IMNHO need to start thinking about this."<br /><br />Let us look at this. If I say to you, "Les, I have a solid and firm ideology that I believe is 100% air-tight and I will not compromise or acquiesce to any other", you might tell me I am too rigid and unwilling to have an open dialogue.<br /><br />But please be honest- are there no issues you yourself will not relent upon? Are there no issues regarding our governance that you will simply not be swayed? And if so, does this not make you unwilling to have an open dialogue?<br /><br />Pure ideology, as you call it, is not the villain. I fully expect, and rightly so I believe, that any progressives or liberals I encounter to be as unmovable as I am on certain issues. The villain to me, if I can call it that, is that there is only one right way and all others fail. Hence, I still see no good that has come from any liberal or statist mindset, ever. This is why I am a liberty-seeking and defending rightist, or Conservative Independent.<br /><br />Has the GOP or the mainstream Republicans represented my brand of Conservatism perfectly? Oh, goodness no. Has the prog/libeal/Socialist representatives perfectly represented their America-hating ideals? Oh, most definitely.<br /><br />I am, I reckon, one of the purists you would malign. The GOP, being the beltway elitists who are more concerned with keeping their power than promoting true Conservatism, do not speak for me. As I am sure they do not speak for you. No, my brand of proper governance and Constitutional fealty can only be found at kitchen tables and diners across America, where real Americans sit and discuss the bleak and dark future of our Nation, knowing it will hold its present course.<br /><br />I am glad for you that you believe open dialogue has helped you cement your ideals. Bravo. But I have learned one thing thus far, ever since I decided to venture into this dirty world of political straining and fussery, and that is this: There is right and there is wrong. There is no grey area. I firmly believe what I believe, and will not compromise or entertain weaker-minded ideals or anything that would weaken us as a Nation.<br /><br />Thanks for reading, Les. I know I was quite wordy, here.<br /><br />Does all this mean to say I will stop reading your blog? Nah. Your blog merely gives me a view into another aspect of America, without demanding I swear by it or to it. Not once has any of your liberal readers made any comment that has changed my mind. I simply like to interact with them for the sake of letting them show me their hands, full on and without restraint, and this enables me to better counter their ignorance.<br /><br />We're on the same team, Les. And right now, that's all that matters to me, even though I am a self-professed purist. ;)Donald Borsch Jr.http://www.perigonmedia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-23756743765923238852013-01-07T10:41:14.079-05:002013-01-07T10:41:14.079-05:00Jersey: The burden is on you to out these lawbrea...Jersey: The burden is on you to out these lawbreaking states, since you are the one leveling the charge. So just what states are flooding the market with guns and not doing nationally-mandated background checks?<br /><br />Name names!Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-8574795751393114572013-01-07T09:00:20.110-05:002013-01-07T09:00:20.110-05:00Please don't be too hard on Jersey. Like a go...Please don't be too hard on Jersey. Like a good progressive, he is a fan of racist eugenicist Margaret Sanger, and apparently an advocate of pulling weeds.<br /><br /><i>"How are we to breed a race of human thoroughbreds unless we follow the same plan? We must make this country into a garden of children instead of a disorderly back lot overrun with human weeds." -- Margaret Sanger, Protoprogressive</i><br /><br /><i>"Three generations of imbeciles are enough". -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Progressive Jurist</i><br /><br />Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-34600163201664735122013-01-07T00:38:09.958-05:002013-01-07T00:38:09.958-05:00Indeed it is, and indeed it was.
As I have return...Indeed it is, and indeed it was.<br /><br />As I have returned once again to study entrys may be fewer and more sporadic.. I shall endeavor to keep them interesting and hopefully controversial.<br /><br />I have found the open discussions, honest disagreement, and cross section of ideas to be most instructive and helpful as well. It has solidified my belief in the principles of Classical Liberalism and the value of reasoned and reasonable compromise. It has given me a new appreciation for the brilliance of our Classically Liberal and enlightened founding fathers.<br /><br />Present conservatism in America poses many undesirables. The alternative lies in objective thought that is not driven or controlled by pure ideology. Both the left and the right IMNHO need to start thinking about this.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-61365460228696540812013-01-06T23:49:18.787-05:002013-01-06T23:49:18.787-05:00Kurt,
Liberty vs. Statism? Hmmm.
I can totally ...Kurt,<br /><br />Liberty vs. Statism? Hmmm.<br /><br />I can totally see that. Perhaps you are correct in that it is not about right vs. left, since history has shown us that the right stands for liberty and the left stands for statism. Well, for the most art, anyhoos.<br /><br />Definitely food for thought.Donald Borsch Jr.http://www.perigonmedia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-6185741162675744912013-01-06T23:43:05.074-05:002013-01-06T23:43:05.074-05:00Les,
'Twould appear that Natsuo somehow was o...Les,<br /><br />'Twould appear that Natsuo somehow was offended and has left your site. Shame, that. Things were getting...interesting. Oh well.<br /><br />I, however, am looking forward to your next entry, as it profits me much to be in an environment such as this, wherein I can sharpen mine own mind and cement my ideals. ;)<br /><br />Oh, by the way, I will probably start commenting using my Google account screen name soon. Just so you know. Cheers, my online friend.Donald Borsch Jr.http://www.perigonmedia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-19657979734182309152013-01-06T23:10:01.920-05:002013-01-06T23:10:01.920-05:00Well then. As you handily deleted your comments ot...Well then. As you handily deleted your comments other than this one I cannot address your concern with any specificity other than to say I was not insulting your intelligence. That was not in question as you obviously are intelligent as well as well written.<br /><br />My comment was meant to be general that IMNHO many, including the NRA and yourself do not look at the broader picture and therefore do not consider all the ramification or possible alternative solutions. I continue to stand by that position.<br /><br />I am sorry you were offended by my comment, perhaps I should have been more sensitive to your sensitivity. One thing I have learned is conservatives and libertarians need to have very thick skin. The second is that one should never take thinks too personal because usally there aren't meant that way. With the exception of some very rabid progressive and extreme right wing socons and neo con.<br /><br />Anyway, I wish you well in your future endeavors. If you should have a change of heart consider you have an open invitation to return and express your views. How else can a democratic republic with freedom of speech and expression hope to survive for long?<br /><br />Good evening sir, and may the bounty that hard work and perseverance usually brings to one in America smile upon you and yours. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-10586071130080315352013-01-06T21:26:55.033-05:002013-01-06T21:26:55.033-05:00Okay, well, if it's come to insulting my intel...Okay, well, if it's come to insulting my intelligence ("fail to recognize it," implying that I don't choose to objectively analyze the facts, "delusion," and "loonies"), I guess that's that then.<br /><br />Best of luck in your future endeavors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-49325707475699208342013-01-06T21:19:28.975-05:002013-01-06T21:19:28.975-05:00No wonder your area is so crime ridden; if citizen...No wonder your area is so crime ridden; if citizens refuse to help police catch criminals. I guess those who go it alone don't worry about the safety of others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-66475551526627782932013-01-06T21:07:07.499-05:002013-01-06T21:07:07.499-05:00Don, it is true that the conservatives, starting w...Don, it is true that the conservatives, starting with Ronald Reagan, and GWB SURE AS HELL fists the following comment, really had no problem with all kinds of cheapo immigrant labor entering the USA and working for a fraction of the cost of American labor as it kept costs down and benefits under control.<br /><br />I'm thinking that is what the jmj was talking about.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-35241393622938564822013-01-06T20:58:13.339-05:002013-01-06T20:58:13.339-05:00Ah, but you in fact do Natsuo. You, like many simp...Ah, but you in fact do Natsuo. You, like many simply fail to recognize it. There are objective facts for those who chose, or put another way decide to analyze them.<br /><br />The issue at hand is not about banning firearms or restricting the right of law abiding and mentally stable individuals from the right to own and keep firearms. That my friend is the delusion the NRA, of which I was a former member, as well as the loonies would have everyone believe.<br /><br />It is however not the reality. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com