tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post1389374791407973774..comments2024-03-29T07:18:10.425-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: From the Tea-Publican Right...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-83925850298733401842024-02-02T04:17:28.261-05:002024-02-02T04:17:28.261-05:0002/02/2024 - the gop went from Tea Party romantici...02/02/2024 - the gop went from Tea Party romanticism and anti tax ferve, to the orange hued human orangutan Donald J. Trump and his love of authoritarian strong arm leadership stylea like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and others.<br /><br />A narcisistic, xenophobic, misogynistic, insurrectionist, and rapist who attempted to overturn the legitimate fair and free election of President Biden in 2020.<br /><br />A man who hates democracy and desires the destruction of the successful American experiment in self rule and the rule of law.<br /><br />A man who should never be allowed anywhere near the levers of power ever again. His dementia and his clearly obvious seperation from reality should be <b>all</b> that any clear level headed person should need to vote democractic in 2024 and return President Biden to the presidency and his effective and steady leadership of our <b>representative democracy</b> as well as flipping the house democratic and retaining its senate majority. Thus avoiding DJT's desire and efforts to turn this nation into a third wirld shithole.<br /><br />Vote President Biden and democractic across the board in 2024 to avoid the insanity, chaos, and authoritarianism of DJT and the gop.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-88423025218132746132016-11-01T15:21:53.939-04:002016-11-01T15:21:53.939-04:00http://mysteresmoonbatslayerclub.blogspot.com/2016...http://mysteresmoonbatslayerclub.blogspot.com/2016/10/have-you-laughed-at-liberal-today.html?m=1<br /><br />I just posted a link to your piece, RN. I'm giving you a courtesy heads up, even though I disagree with you 99.9% of the time.mystere's moonbat slayer clubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12059909696097340275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80176908227456695002015-11-01T12:48:45.678-05:002015-11-01T12:48:45.678-05:00NAFTA was signed by the 3rd way Democrat (corporat...NAFTA was signed by the 3rd way Democrat (corporate sellout Dem) Bill Clinton... although, according to the Heritage Foundation, NAFTA is <a href="http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1993/11/em371-the-north-american-free-trade-agreement" rel="nofollow">Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized</a>.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-57069196116097755072015-11-01T12:45:32.360-05:002015-11-01T12:45:32.360-05:00The roots of economic inequality and stagnation go...The roots of economic inequality and stagnation go back to the Reagan presidency. We are living under the influence of the <a href="http://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/reaganomics_killed_americas_middle_class_partner/" rel="nofollow">middle-class-destroying</a> policies of Reaganomics today.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-9967977262996210362015-10-28T19:02:16.225-04:002015-10-28T19:02:16.225-04:00It was a congressional and Clinton mistake.
The v...It was a congressional and Clinton mistake.<br /><br /><i><b>The vote was 61 to 38. As was the case earlier in the House, Republicans supplied the most support, accounting for 34 of the favorable votes to 27 from the Democrats.</b></i><br /><br /><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-21/news/mn-59485_1_trade-pact" rel="nofollow">SOURCE</a>Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-65577811098054645572015-10-28T18:26:19.157-04:002015-10-28T18:26:19.157-04:00Yes NAFTAYes NAFTALisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-25475257791334085392015-10-28T14:32:10.407-04:002015-10-28T14:32:10.407-04:00Les.
Guess you learned from legs, if you have noth...Les.<br />Guess you learned from legs, if you have nothing to say, just insult. How can you say nothing in your post says anything about racism, sure it does. I never made a racial remarks about obama or his wife. I did question his ability to lead and having no experience and I feel he is incompetent and express those things I was referred to as a racist. You have nothing good to say about Carson so you must be a racist, goes both ways.<br />I thought obamacare was a travesty and I was proved correct. Same goes for the administration pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan. <br /><br />Your progressive ideas are give it away and have the rich pay for it. In JC mind that is creative thinking.<br /> skudrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610092853412481236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-53813792269263503552015-10-28T13:08:35.718-04:002015-10-28T13:08:35.718-04:00I am willing to discuss economics with any TPer pr...I am willing to discuss economics with any TPer provided they want a serious discussion and are willing to keep away the rage monkeys.<br /><br />About the last 35 or more years: massive loss of domestic manufacting base and jobs due to globalization; high productivity not equally shared, decades of wage stagnation, perks and privileges hard wired into the tax code over 3 decades; mergers and consolidations that have driven small businesses out of the marketplace, as examples. (O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-65206591498155614772015-10-28T12:27:53.026-04:002015-10-28T12:27:53.026-04:00Again Lisa you provide no specifics to which I can...Again Lisa you provide no specifics to which I can respond. I don't know this for a fact of course, however I suspect the reason is because you have none.<br /><br /><i><b>You think it was started because of Obama? </b></i><br /><br />Actually I don't. For the specific and accurate reason stated by (O)CT(O)PUS above.<br /><br /><i><b>so instead of trashing the Teaparty folks you should have joined them.</b></i><br /><br />I actually thought about joining the mob Lisa, until I realized its message about liberty, fiscal responsibility, equality of opportunity, sound governance, balanced budgets and paying down the debt, religious freedom etc. is really just a cover to keep things status quo and benefitting the the same folks tt caused the lions share of the problem in the first place.<br /><br />Further to this one only need visit your weblog and take in the bigoted, racist, and anti Semite comments by the likes of Radical Redneck, Rusty Shackleford, Kid, FreeThinke, and the legions of sock puppets that agree with the degenerative minds of folks like them. I <i><b>will always</b></i> stand against them and call them out but under <i><b>no circumstances</b></i> will I ever join a group that supports such garbage or just looks the other way and makes excuses for them.<br /><br />Enjoy your day Lisa and get back to me when you have some specifics.; if you ever do.<br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-23483951573521751652015-10-28T10:09:39.036-04:002015-10-28T10:09:39.036-04:00Furthermore, the roots of economic inequality and ...Furthermore, the roots of economic inequality and stagnation go back 35 years or more. But TPers have no patience for facts - they demand simple sound bites and ritual scapegoats.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-11381912454978939582015-10-28T09:51:25.960-04:002015-10-28T09:51:25.960-04:00GWB, and it was called "TARP" - signed i...GWB, and it was called "TARP" - signed into law 3 months before Obama took the oath of office. The Tea Party started out as an "AstroTurf" movement organized by Dick Armey of Freedom Works. The TPers then became rudderless.<br /><br />(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-26029413014526354252015-10-28T09:21:44.040-04:002015-10-28T09:21:44.040-04:00so instead of trashing the Teaparty folks you shou...so instead of trashing the Teaparty folks you should have joined them.<br />You think it was started because of Obama? It was started after the bank bailouts. Let's see now who was the president that did that? <br />Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-30958335853890208082015-10-28T09:14:43.065-04:002015-10-28T09:14:43.065-04:00Lisa: "to return America back over to the pe...Lisa: "<i>to return America back over to the people and away from the privileged elite</i>"<br /><br />Well, it's a start. Only one problem: If you read moderate blogs instead of trashing them, you would discover that we have been saying the same thing ... for years! You folks get so wrapped up inside partisan hatred, you forgot how to listen.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-54732134829154755702015-10-27T22:01:13.511-04:002015-10-27T22:01:13.511-04:00Be specific Lisa. What draconian ideas are speakin...Be specific Lisa. What draconian ideas are speaking of. I identified a few specific things that I am very concerned with should Carson sit in the Oval Office.<br /><br />Now you change the subject to deflect discussion away from the issues you are uncomfortable with. Give me some examples of draconian things and I respond.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-35119303690696028952015-10-27T20:59:19.793-04:002015-10-27T20:59:19.793-04:00We don't need draconian ideas the left want to...We don't need draconian ideas the left want to impose on the rest of. What fabulous new ideas did they create that is helping all AmericansLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80434836409080632632015-10-27T20:39:00.353-04:002015-10-27T20:39:00.353-04:00Absolutely! Truth simply stated Jerry.Absolutely! Truth simply stated Jerry.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-74288477914570710262015-10-27T20:31:37.571-04:002015-10-27T20:31:37.571-04:00I think the Tea Party explain their ideas very wel...I think the Tea Party explain their ideas very well. The problem is not the messaging. The problems are the ideas.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-82635342827245670172015-10-27T19:11:22.143-04:002015-10-27T19:11:22.143-04:00LMAO Lisa!!!
Your problem, as well as all the res...LMAO Lisa!!!<br /><br />Your problem, as well as all the rest of the tea-publican tea baggers is that you have no idea other than to go back to the way things were before.<br /><br />The bagger's message amounts to one of stagnation as well as sticking our heads into the sands of the past. Works for you maybe but it doesn't work for me and millions of others.<br /><br />BTW, given the multitudes of tea baggers you'd think someone would be able to explain their "good" ideas well. Don't cha think Lisa? <br /><br />Perhaps you'll be happy when the USA is a theocracy of Christian tyranny that will compare with Sharia law eh Lisa?Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-32862494036558109802015-10-27T18:43:48.644-04:002015-10-27T18:43:48.644-04:00It seems as referenced by this post that it is lib...It seems as referenced by this post that it is liberals who are overly obsessed with conservative blogs<br />The problem is messaging. The left can explain bad ideas very well while the right can't explain good ideas very wellLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-41384721862394480202015-10-27T18:38:24.351-04:002015-10-27T18:38:24.351-04:00Maybe if you didn't come there and offer somet...Maybe if you didn't come there and offer something other than insults you would in turn,not get have the favor returned<br />The teabag reference is getting old and tiresome as is the bigot and racist accusations <br />That is all liberals seem to be able to offerLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-72051781968057787642015-10-27T17:21:40.043-04:002015-10-27T17:21:40.043-04:00skudrunner, you are simply displaying your willful...skudrunner, you are simply displaying your willful ignorance here. Nothing in this post demeans or is in the least bit racially motivated. In fact the some of the good Dr's positions I referenced were in fact taken from Dr. Carson's own website. unlike the reactionary as*ho^es that refer to the President and First Lady in the most derogatory and racist language, you find none of that here or on the liberal weblogs I visit.<br /><br />Addressing policy issues and philosophy one disagrees with is not racist, bigoted, nor it it a double standard. <br /><br />BTW, (O)CT(O)PUS is spot on and you are all wet skudrunner. Your commentary confirms this.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-27233603639853746502015-10-27T16:59:03.615-04:002015-10-27T16:59:03.615-04:00Both sides have their faults and certainly the &qu...Both sides have their faults and certainly the "progressive" blogs are not immune to radical behavior.<br />The election is a long way off and unlike the democrats, the GOP has yet to crown a candidate. it is doubtful they will for some time to come. It probably will not be Trump or Carson but Trump has been entertaining. <br /><br />It is interesting that when the right said obama was not qualified and his ideas were extreme they were racist but the left can castigate Carson and all is OK. Is that not a double standard or does that even matter? Kinda funny that legs would talk about anger management.skudrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07610092853412481236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-59253989732034206272015-10-27T15:56:07.558-04:002015-10-27T15:56:07.558-04:00I guess not as entertaining as attacking the brill...<i>I guess not as entertaining as attacking the brilliant black conservative Ben Carson.</i><br /><br />Yes, he is a brilliant black neurosurgeon Lisa I agree.<br /><br /><i>One thing he is not and that is a deceitful elite politician like Hillary and Obama.</i><br /><br />He definitely, prior to entering politics and joining the conservative to reactionary tea-publicans, was most certainly not a deceitful elite politician. Since laying himself prostate before the powers of tea-publican influence is undoubtedly no longer the case.<br /><br /><i>Carson may not be the quintessential politician but he carries a certain message people like,basically to return America back over to the people and away from the privileged elite.</i><br /><br />This I can agree with and support.<br /><br /><i>Which if you are a true libertarian would agree with that messaging Les.</i><br /><br />Something you and your fellow travelers the Stench Trench either don't get or simply choose to ignore is this Lisa: A) I am a classical liberal through and through with a fierce libertarian streak with respect to civil liberties, individual rights to pursue my own life style preferences w/o the federal government and fundamentalist tea-publican telling me I am wrong and have no right to do so. <br /><br /><i>You should prefer him over some of the others.</i><br /><br />Well Lisa, were it not for Carson's A) desire to overturn Roe-v-Wade and deny women reproductive choice, B) police and censor college campuses for/of views contrary to his fundamentalist religious views and his conservative to reactionary political views, C) his views on education and how it is best administered for the national benefit and international competiveness, D) his naïve position on national health care and how to improve it for all Americans, E) his ill informed and dangerous position on increasing religious influence in our secular government, F) his NRA advocated stance on 2'nd amendment rights, G) his questioning almost bordering on denial of evolution, to name a few, I might agree with you.<br /><br />I wont be supporting Dr. Ben or The Trumpster. Both IMV represent great threats to our republic and the values our liberal, no radical revolutionary, founding fathers established for us to carry on.<br /><br />BTW, you demonstrate all the characteristics of the tyrannical minority tea-publicans you allow on your weblog that find it their greatest accomplishment to degrade, slander, and frankly sh*t all over good people who do nothing to deserve it. And, it ALWAYS is without any substance whatsoever. You Lisa, as well your weblog have lost all credibility in the eyes of thinking fiscal conservatives and social libertarians. <br /><br />It remains to be seen whether I visit your Stench Trench in the future. After all, it is nothing more than an echo chamber of bigots, racists, reactionaries, and liars. It has become quite clear you all are beyond the point of no return.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-74634869558913205242015-10-27T14:13:19.525-04:002015-10-27T14:13:19.525-04:00My rational side advises you are indeed correct, I...My rational side advises you are indeed correct, IGNORE. My combative side advised STAND and CONFRONT the lies and BS from the Tea-Publican.<br /><br />Both remain under advisement.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-34554676863790137492015-10-27T11:45:56.645-04:002015-10-27T11:45:56.645-04:00I guess not as entertaining as attacking the brill...I guess not as entertaining as attacking the brilliant black conservative Ben Carson. One thing he is not and that is a deceitful elite politician like Hillary and Obama.<br /><br />Carson may not be the quintessential politician but he carries a certain message people like,basically to return America back over to the people and away from the privileged elite. Which if you are a true libertarian would agree with that messaging Les. <br />You should prefer him over some of the others.<br />Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.com