tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post8310674919061141879..comments2024-03-28T15:24:53.579-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: The Truth About Texas Governor Rick Perry...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-4310595298203868292011-09-09T06:27:35.285-04:002011-09-09T06:27:35.285-04:00Once again, a national election will come down to ...Once again, a national election will come down to this: voting against the incumbent.<br /><br />How long it has been since I was actually able to vote <b>FOR</b> someone! **sigh**Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-44664313999377627032011-08-29T21:35:46.551-04:002011-08-29T21:35:46.551-04:00Weak. Perry is a convenient "anti-Obama"...Weak. Perry is a convenient "anti-Obama" shepherd and the flock that will follow him is clueless.<br /><br />My dream ticket: Ron Paul and Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, or Chris Christie.<br /><br />I would vote for Jesus, but the Christian Right already has laid claim to Him, and He already has a full-time job as it is. LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-3266315857316748012011-08-29T20:48:48.403-04:002011-08-29T20:48:48.403-04:00Molly Ivens, God rest her soul, was a gifted write...Molly Ivens, God rest her soul, was a gifted writer. I rarely agreed with her, but I greatly admired her keen and hilarious insights and her ability to put it down on paper.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-2734735396507116552011-08-29T11:39:01.374-04:002011-08-29T11:39:01.374-04:00I used to read the left-wing columnist Molly Ivins...I used to read the left-wing columnist Molly Ivins. Because she was a lowbrow mud-flinging columnist who shied away from intellectual arguments, the main thing I learned about Perry from her was that Perry had good hair, and Molly did not like it.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-68574357416911613722011-08-29T11:38:01.568-04:002011-08-29T11:38:01.568-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-2415886526564727442011-08-28T16:18:20.307-04:002011-08-28T16:18:20.307-04:00Correct Silver, government can't be turned on ...Correct Silver, government can't be turned on a dime, nor should it.<br /><br />That principles, rationality, reason, science, philosophy, ethics and morality {branches of philosophy} matter seems to be lost on the "Big Two" political circuses and the myopic tents in which they reside. <br /><br />So, IMO it is up to those who recognize the reality of current American politics to PUSH THE ENVELOPE towards those things that matter and are of real value.<br /><br />Change and thinking outside ones cereal box isn't easy. Especially for politicians with no real compass to follow let alone consistent rational philosophy.<br /><br />As much as the Tea Party may have served a useful purpose there are some dudes and dudettes in the group without a real clue and therefore are dismissed by me.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-22202074769037644882011-08-28T15:53:14.365-04:002011-08-28T15:53:14.365-04:00for as far as the eye can see statism is alive and...<i>for as far as the eye can see statism is alive and well in both parties</i><br /><br />So true Les. <br /><br />With the democrats I see no chance whatsoever of pushing back the frontiers of statism. With the GOP there is at least a ray of hope because the tea parties are breathing down their necks.<br /><br />With a third party, no hope whatsoever. You've got to have power to affect change. <br /><br />There will always be a tension with the GOP, as there is in any organization, and nothing will ever be "solved."<br /><br />Government is a huge ship that cannot be turned on a dime.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-41580418936171189552011-08-28T15:16:13.343-04:002011-08-28T15:16:13.343-04:00Silver - I will no longer buy junk with my vote. T...Silver - I will no longer buy junk with my vote. The republican and democratic parties are frigging jokes. Just as Obama, Perry, Bachmann, Palin, et all are jokes. <br /><br />As to statism, define your terms. Because as near as I can tell for as far as the eye can see statism is alive and well in both parties. Statism comeS in both red and blue. Today it is just a matter of which color and flavor you accept.<br /><br />Either looks hideous and tastes like s*it.<br /><br />As Rand said a consistent non-contradictory philosophy, ethics and morality based on reason matters. Apparently all three have been lost on most candidates.<br /><br />Thinking outside the box and pushing the envelope is the only hope for reasoned and real change. Short of that we'll keep getting more of the same blue or red crap.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-59116636957518419132011-08-28T14:15:36.160-04:002011-08-28T14:15:36.160-04:00TWP - Perhaps you are right But, there are those o...TWP - Perhaps you are right But, there are those of us who will be vocal and argue the proper thing to do is to push a rational conservative and libertarian agenda.<br /><br />Listening to the hyperbole and crap coming from the major parties candidate is sickening. I say this with respect to both the democrats and republicans.<br /><br />If you think voting for ABO will result in change I respectfully submit you are just hoping without looking at the evidence.<br /><br />Tyranny my friend can and does take many forms. Each as destructive as the other.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-91412032116142098402011-08-28T14:15:17.247-04:002011-08-28T14:15:17.247-04:00Les: It's like buying a car. I'd love a ...Les: It's like buying a car. I'd love a $100,000 Porsche, but it just ain't in my budget.<br /><br />An election is a multiple-choice test. Sure, you can write in your own answer, but you still fail the test.<br /><br />Look at where the GOP is now compared to 2008, compared to 2000...<br /><br />No one can credibly say it has not become more conservative and more small government. It's ain't perfect (nothing is), and we ain't there yet, but we're moving in the right direction, while the democrats are doubling down on their failed statism.<br /><br />For me, the choice is easy.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-16260802464340521772011-08-28T14:05:19.846-04:002011-08-28T14:05:19.846-04:00As long as conservatives and libertarians continue...As long as conservatives and libertarians continue to support the BS crony capitalist and corporatist{s} that rule the major parties we will continue to reap the disaster we are presently witnessing in our nation.<br /><br />It is sad, at least IMO that you guys will choose to support anybody so long as it ain't Obama. No matter how anti intellectual or ridiculous a particular candidate may have demonstrated themselves to be.<br /><br />Rather than vote for the lesser of two evils from now on I will vote for the candidate that has IMO has the most consistently demonstrated rational true conservative libertarian views.<br /><br />Beyond that I will vote for "Donald Duck" rather than vote for Obama.<br /><br />principles, philosophy, and ethics do matter.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-27442641500067099172011-08-28T14:04:27.610-04:002011-08-28T14:04:27.610-04:00"If this does not happen I will be hard press..."If this does not happen <b>I will be hard pressed to vote at all</b>. Because a vote for socialism, crony capitalism, or cor[corporatism [sic] is in fact a vote for the eventual demise of this country.<br /><br />THE DIFFERENCE?... You tell me."<br /><br /><b>Typical.</b><br /><br />The difference is that you saddle the majority of us -- the poor working stiffs -- with this current sack of crap. With another four years and unfettered by having to get re-elected and realizing that he needs to keep his Obama Care and Crap-and-Tax stuff in place, he will veto any and all attempts at repeal/change and we will get the short end of the stick. <br /><br />It's kinda like refusing to take cancer treatments because you don't like the way you look when your hair falls out. <br /><br />Look, I respect the fact that that people are entitled to their opinions but being obdurate and intransigent ain't gonna get the job done. I got a wad of cash that says we will not have a Libertarian (big-L or small-l) in our lifetimes.k6whphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14459579212118994056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-616032077340038712011-08-28T13:42:38.140-04:002011-08-28T13:42:38.140-04:00Silver said: "A third party candidate guarant...Silver said: "A third party candidate guarantees Obama and the democrats four more years to finish destroying the country."<br /><br />True. Any such candidate is a complete joke at best, and at worst a spoiler stalking-horse for the big candidate on the other side of the ideological aisle.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80027293979978822092011-08-28T10:07:50.667-04:002011-08-28T10:07:50.667-04:00A third party candidate guarantees Obama and the d...A third party candidate guarantees Obama and the democrats four more years to finish destroying the country.<br /><br />I am an Anybody But Obama guy. Romney, Paul or even Palin. Whoever gets the nomination gets my vote.<br /><br />You have assembled quite a case against Perry, Les. A little googling reveals the other side of the story on each of these issues.<br /><br />For example, about that corridor. <br /><br />http://biggovernment.com/cdevore/2011/08/17/governor-perry-the-trans-texas-corridor-eminent-domain-do-limited-government-conservatives-need-to-worry-no/<br /><br />Once the Panama Canal expansion is complete, Houston will most likely become the busiest port in the nation, and you gotta have roads and infrastructure to move the goods.<br /><br />Which is a better solution? Have government pay for it, or have it paid for by those who use it?<br /><br />Also, comparing California debt to Texas debt is apples and oranges. Texas debt is more current accounts that are easily fixed when the economy improves, while California's is long-term fiduciary liabilities that will only get worse as time goes on.<br /><br />This puts the jobs controversy into perspective:<br /><br />http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590<br /><br />Texas has grown rapidly as people vote with their feet and escape the collapsing blue states. They've had to create a lot of jobs for those people.<br /><br />I find it interesting how both the right and the left are going after this guy (and using each others' arguments), so he must be a threat.<br /><br />Nobody's perfect. Reagan raised taxes and signed pro-abortion legislation. <br /><br />The jobs criticism is just liberal noise, but the Gardisil issue and the crony capitalism give me the most pause.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-37630666215284540522011-08-28T00:52:30.274-04:002011-08-28T00:52:30.274-04:00In the very likely event Ron Paul will not be the ...In the very likely event Ron Paul will not be the nominee I hope a third party candidate that is charismatic and electable emerges. A candidate with center right politics and a person of intellect and integrity.<br /><br />There are few that fit the above billing.<br /><br />If this does not happen I will be hard pressed to vote at all. Because a vote for socialism, crony capitalism, or cor[corporatism is in fact a vote for the eventual demise of this country.<br /><br />THE DIFFERENCE?... You tell me.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-57327177023977764502011-08-28T00:43:37.233-04:002011-08-28T00:43:37.233-04:00Les,
Thanks for the in-depth analysis. After havi...Les,<br /><br />Thanks for the in-depth analysis. After having read this, I would be very interested in seeing who you would back -- besides Ron Paul -- for the GOP nominee.<br /><br />It would certainly be nice to a candidate who is (1) a true conservative and (2) is electable. I fear those might be mutually exclusive however.<br /><br />Not sorry to say this: I am an "A.B.O." voter (Anyone But Obama) because this guy is an absolute disaster and giving him anything but an unadulterated smack-down in 2012 would be an indication to the left that their repugnant socialistic principles have a place in this country.<br /><br />I do not believe for one New York minute that Perry will be the next Ronald Reagan but I do know this for certain: he will not be the next Barack Obama and, at present, that's good enough for me.<br /><br />So, if it is Perry who wins the nomination or Palin (if she ever gets in) or Bachmann or Romney or whomever, I will work my tail off to support them over Obama.<br /><br />Please, please, please, PLEASE tell me you would do the same.<br /><br /><i>By the way, it would suit me just fine if Perry were the next GWB. I did not like a lot of the stuff that "W" did but I respected the man.</i>k6whphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14459579212118994056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-51508242443885122392011-08-28T00:31:47.907-04:002011-08-28T00:31:47.907-04:00Can you then point me to valid information that re...Can you then point me to valid information that refutes these points. If so I will gladly run them here @ RN USA.<br /><br />I couldn't care less about the damage Perry may or may not have inflicted on Texas. I do however have to be concerned with the possibility of his liberal crony capitalism as it WILL effect the nation if we are so unfortunate as to have him as President.<br /><br />As I am sure you know my candidate is Ron Paul.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-52486529567605507222011-08-28T00:11:22.102-04:002011-08-28T00:11:22.102-04:00As a conservative living in Texas I could easily r...As a conservative living in Texas I could easily refute much of this, but why bother? Your mind is clearly made up. Suffice it to say that much of the above is either outright lies or distortions designed to put him in the worst light possible. And I say this as a Texan who does not support Perry for President.Antimedianoreply@blogger.com