tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post7837381381259001021..comments2024-03-28T15:24:53.579-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Enough To Sicken Even the Most Hardy Free Man and Free Woman...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-75230862368393089052012-10-21T10:38:23.819-04:002012-10-21T10:38:23.819-04:00Certainly you have stated a truth. Unfortunately m...Certainly you have stated a truth. Unfortunately multitudes of the willing followers will never realize they have been duped by the very philosophy they adhere to. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-12525008905645751582012-10-21T10:00:53.657-04:002012-10-21T10:00:53.657-04:00“Give us the child for eight years, and it will be...<i>“Give us the child for eight years, and it will be a Bolshevik forever.”</i> —Vladimir Lenin. <br /><br />Mr. Lenin illuminates what has happened to the American public education system, while most of us slept; he explains how we ever ended up with the likes of JMJ and Ducky.<br />Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388694472897425202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-56708796599834540972012-10-21T09:07:58.338-04:002012-10-21T09:07:58.338-04:00It's really all about total control. Control b...It's really all about total control. Control by the few elites over the rest of society. A disgusting, bankrupt, unethical, and amoral philosophy.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-68022392456808103592012-10-21T09:03:26.166-04:002012-10-21T09:03:26.166-04:00Hear, hear... Well said AOW!Hear, hear... Well said AOW!Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-44591435183321277092012-10-21T09:01:23.772-04:002012-10-21T09:01:23.772-04:00Quite interesting comment Ducky. Methinks it says ...Quite interesting comment Ducky. Methinks it says much more about you than me. But hey, all is fair in love and war, yes?Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-89812113603461056292012-10-21T08:58:23.610-04:002012-10-21T08:58:23.610-04:00Thanks AOW.Thanks AOW.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-88548605009290891622012-10-21T08:24:16.412-04:002012-10-21T08:24:16.412-04:00Rational Nation, why doesn't your response sur...Rational Nation, why doesn't your response surprise me? Could it be because as a Randoid you have no sense of community, culture or justice? In fact your a Libertarian who his happy to take the knee to his masters. Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-66478083058537491652012-10-21T07:33:01.245-04:002012-10-21T07:33:01.245-04:00They're promoting a tyrannical ideology as &qu...They're promoting a tyrannical ideology as "good" and "equal", as one that we should tolerate. Holy freaking crap! We should tolerate an ideology that commits mass murder? That's vile and makes me want to hurl. Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040553825059591114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-83402735365890570072012-10-21T07:16:53.139-04:002012-10-21T07:16:53.139-04:00Linked at my site.<a href="http://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/2012/10/europe.html" rel="nofollow">Linked at my site</a>.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-33762877478833042442012-10-21T05:05:26.464-04:002012-10-21T05:05:26.464-04:00FT said: The amendments ceding more and more power...FT said: <i>The amendments ceding more and more power to "the vulgar populace," as Alexander Hamilton called the masses, have weakened and coarsened us terribly in my never humble opinion.</i><br /><br />Giving over the election of the U.S. Senate to popular vote was a huge mistake, I think.<br /><br />The masses were still voting, of course: for the House and for their own local and state governments -- according to the voting parameters of the time. On the local and state levels, voting parameters were established by those entities. <br /><br />Were some of the restrictions unreasonable? Perhaps. Certainly, forbidding voting based solely on race was reprehensible. But those who own property are more vested in knowing about the issues instead of voting by the seat of their pants or according to whoever gives the biggest handouts.<br /><br />Furthermore, interest in politics -- real interest and concern -- was more intense at the state level when more was at stake, i.e., the appointment of U.S. Senators.<br /><br />Today, particularly with mass media, people are too easily swayed and too subject to fallacies in logic. Just look at the political ads that we are subjected to every day! Sheesh. Here in battleground state Virginia, these ads are bombardments!<br /><br />Add to the above what our public schools promote. The Left! That influence used to be moderated by other views within the public school system. No more!<br /><br />My mother used to say, "If a person shows up at the polls to vote and cannot name all the candidates, that person shouldn't be allowed to vote." Draconian, I know, but Mom had a point, I think.<br /><br />Elections for those at the federal level have swamped elections at other levels. In fact, often, when I go to the polls, I don't even recognize the names of candidates for other offices. And I try to stay informed about those levels! But these candidates cannot get the word out as to their positions on local and state matters, matters that often affect the citizenry more directly that matters at the federal level.<br /><br />I have come to the conclusion that the Information Age is really the Age of Ignorance. The masses are caught up in trivialities, sound bytes, and logic fallacies.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-3544027295456432402012-10-21T04:52:46.050-04:002012-10-21T04:52:46.050-04:00Take everybody into your embrace and your home, an...Take everybody into your embrace and your home, and, sooner or later, you lose yourself and your dwelling.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29885080232515490442012-10-20T13:52:19.186-04:002012-10-20T13:52:19.186-04:00Silver said: "Libertarianism hasn't kille...Silver said: "Libertarianism hasn't killed over 100 million people like communism has, so it's no contest,"<br /><br />Most of the worst mass murderers in history have been socialists. None of them have been libertarians. The reason for this difference lies in the root ideologies of these distinctly contrasting groups.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-28140291205848071752012-10-20T13:51:17.006-04:002012-10-20T13:51:17.006-04:00Jersey is right when he said that communism (hard-...Jersey is right when he said that communism (hard-line leftist fascism) is the opposite of libertarianism. A system of no liberty.<br /><br />Marxism is pure evil and causes genocide and mass oppression whenever applied. A harmless Marxist is like a harmless Nazi (as per JMJ's example). Harmless only due to lacking power. But once they get it, the rivers run red with blood.<br /><br />Communism is not a mirror of libertarianism. The two are polar opposites in all ways.<br /><br />Silver said: "OK, I buy that, because libertarianism embraces freedom for all, while communism brings chains, slavery and misery."<br /><br />Exactly. I wonder why JMJ only looks at the surface of things, and ignores history?<br /><br />Jersey also said: "Altogether, the vast majority of people who identify themselves as communists are not insane super-villains bent on destroying the world."<br /><br />Well, the only thing that communists aren't is 'super'. They don't use super powers to slaughter us: they use knives and bullets. Just mundane villains.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-22598593571825590832012-10-20T12:07:32.319-04:002012-10-20T12:07:32.319-04:00jmj has been known to make huge leaps from logic f...jmj has been known to make huge leaps from logic from time to to time and try to connect unrelated points so his general statement becomes incongruous.<br /><br />But I'll give him this much, he keeps trying and occasionally I find myself almost in a state of agreement with him. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-73215417073584856202012-10-20T12:02:47.461-04:002012-10-20T12:02:47.461-04:00ha,Ha, Ha... Continue to live in your mentally dis...ha,Ha, Ha... Continue to live in your mentally diseased infected, bigoted, racist, and lying world.<br /><br />Hey Asshat, have another Quaalude or two, I'm sure your delusional condition will be even more enjoyably for you.<br /><br />Bye Asshat...Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-14964680582002699162012-10-20T11:58:06.539-04:002012-10-20T11:58:06.539-04:00Tim, Exactly. Well stated.
On another note, can ...Tim, Exactly. Well stated. <br /><br />On another note, can you believe Asshat the Cowardly Anonymous? Just goes to show what the philosophy and ethics of extreme progressivism leads to. Complete and total mental collapse and the ability to think critically. <br /><br />With any luck Asshat the Cowardly Ignorant Douche Bag will collapse into the bowl of jelly he has obviously become.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-42825627233762037082012-10-20T11:33:37.203-04:002012-10-20T11:33:37.203-04:00JMJ and Les: If you want to see a real world examp...JMJ and Les: If you want to see a real world example of what a communist society looks like, please watch "State of Mind: Life in North Korea"<br /><br />The documentary was made by BBC, hardly a right-wing outlet.<br /><br />More here:<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/10/bbc-north-korea-documenta_n_607924.html<br /><br />The naivety of "progressives" such as JMJ never ceases to amaze me. Like Les says above communism -- just like National Socialism, ie. Nazism -- is Evil, pure and simple. Yet the useful idiots on the left don't even see it.Left Coast Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292257205859285528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-68996652498077915032012-10-20T11:28:30.763-04:002012-10-20T11:28:30.763-04:00JMJ said:
"Altogether, the vast majority of ...JMJ said:<br /><br />"Altogether, the vast majority of people who identify themselves as communists are not insane super-villains bent on destroying the world."<br /><br />Perhaps not, but when their ideology has free reign in a society, destruction, misery and death are the inevitable outcomes.<br /><br />Decent people can be incredibly led astray on political philosophy, religion such as cults and fundamental extremism (of which communism is; the cult and worship of the state). Just because naive, well meaning folks are deceived into a way of thinking doesn't mean that their underlying philosophy is not immoral, destructive or insane or one that imprisons and shackles their fellow man if left unchecked.Left Coast Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292257205859285528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-36640120983109554262012-10-20T11:28:07.287-04:002012-10-20T11:28:07.287-04:00"Altogether, the vast majority of people who ..."Altogether, the vast majority of people who identify themselves as communists are not insane super-villains bent on destroying the world."<br /><br />Perhaps not, but when their ideology has free reign in a society, destruction, misery and death are the inevitable outcomes.<br /><br />Decent people can be incredibly led astray on political philosophy, religion such as cults and fundamental extremism (of which communism is; the cult and worship of the state). Just because naive, well meaning folks are deceived into a way of thinking doesn't mean that their underlying philosophy is not immoral, destructive or insane or one that imprisons and shackles their fellow man if left unchecked.Left Coast Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292257205859285528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-73813781377604841392012-10-20T11:18:39.095-04:002012-10-20T11:18:39.095-04:00Jersey represents the brain-diseased, intellectual...Jersey represents the brain-diseased, intellectual vapidity of today's left.<br /><br />Communism is "a mirror political philosophy to libertarianism?"<br /><br />OK, I buy that, because libertarianism embraces freedom for all, while communism brings chains, slavery and misery.<br /><br />But still, the comparison was jarring, and it is an insult to mention the two as though they were equal choices.<br /><br />Libertarianism hasn't killed over 100 million people like communism has, so it's no contest, and the hammer and sickle and the star are symbols of death and misery. Anyone who embraces them is a sorry excuse for a human being.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-90104468780515622862012-10-20T10:21:38.085-04:002012-10-20T10:21:38.085-04:00Your own racist, bigoted words prove me correctYour own racist, bigoted words prove me correctAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-6097817229388508072012-10-20T09:44:45.338-04:002012-10-20T09:44:45.338-04:00Oh lookie, asshat the bigoted racist progressive h...Oh lookie, asshat the bigoted racist progressive has once again stopped in to deposit his acidity revolting hate filled lies here at RN USA. For those who are offended by Mr. Asshat the Lying Bigot I apologize. However, due to its (his/her) insistence on making itself look like a bigger Asshat bigoted fool every day I have decided to oblige him in his effort to do so. <br /><br />Hopefully the vermin will tire of being a bigoted racist Asshat and go away. In the interim I thank you for your patience.<br /><br />Hey Asshat, having fun?Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-70141240804156415832012-10-20T09:38:14.437-04:002012-10-20T09:38:14.437-04:00"Les, but tell me please if, as a prime expon..."Les, but tell me please if, as a prime exponent of unlimited freedom, which seem to be, would you support legislation to outlaw the existence of open advocacy for Marxist-Communist-Socialist objectives in our country?"<br /><br />A unequivocal NO! On this I actually find myself in agreement with Finntann. Only if advocates of Marxism attempt, by virtue of force, to deny me, my family, or other freemen of their individual rights would I support such legislation. Something our classically Liberal founders would no doubt support as well.<br /><br />"... which is why the franchise at first was extended only to successful, property owning males of proven capability. It is also why we have the Electoral College and why senators were originally chosen by state legislatures and not by direct popular vote."<br /><br />The only point here that I disagree with is the position that you must be a property owner to to have the right to vote. I no longer own property, a decision my wife and I made 25 years ago, after we both had shared in the delights and responsibilities of owning property. Take my right to vote away now and I just might get terribly upsEt and maybe violent.<br /><br />"The country did better when the original constitution was in force. The amendments ceding more and more power to "the vulgar populace," as Alexander Hamilton called the masses, have weakened and coarsened us terribly in my never humble opinion."<br /><br />In many way the country did do better when the powers of the federal government were more delineated and limited. However, as society has grown in population, and the complexities of a increasingly industrialized and technologically advanced civilization has placed unforeseen challenges and obstacles before us we need to think outside the box. In my never humble opinion both the right and the left have their heads so far up there arse neither can see the light needed to respond to today's global challenges.<br /><br />Scrapping what has worked makes no sense. Nor does refusal to consider realistic alternatives for what isn't working while preserving individual civil rights, property rights, and a proper role for government make sense either.<br /><br />As to the "vulgar populace", well, my grandfather out of necessity had to quit school in ninth grade to help support his family. He was one of the smartest self educated men I ever knew, and not because he was my grandfather. He owned property, stayed married to my grandmother for over 55 years, didn't fight in WW II only because his job in the private sector was critical to the war effort; ie the government would not let him enlist. For anyone to call him "the vulgar populace" would have been fighting words to say the very least. He would have been right. He had many, many, many, aquaintances and friends just like himself who would have joined with him.<br /><br />More later FT if you like. I have to go pick up my grandson with grandma right now. <br /><br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-61926266231363240122012-10-20T09:06:13.099-04:002012-10-20T09:06:13.099-04:00Thank you. Hope to see you again.Thank you. Hope to see you again.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-59375481362531725052012-10-20T09:05:12.890-04:002012-10-20T09:05:12.890-04:00Just did jmj. When do I not publish your comments?...Just did jmj. When do I not publish your comments? It is only because of your asshat progressive bigoted hate filled brethren like Anon I have comment moderation turned on. Sometimes ya just have to be patient.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com