tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post5455128374618342332..comments2024-03-29T07:18:10.425-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Is President Obama Preparing To Back Warren For 2016 Democratic Nomination For Prez?...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-77370466783648662592014-07-18T16:04:52.878-04:002014-07-18T16:04:52.878-04:00I do favor one over the other (Ivans V Limbaugh). ...I do favor one over the other (Ivans V Limbaugh). But my point (which you missed) was that only one is/was an INTENTIONAL humorist.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-48753929512852283432014-07-16T18:44:01.239-04:002014-07-16T18:44:01.239-04:00The page you refer to does not fit your descriptio...The page you refer to does not fit your description and won't be removed. The word "shrine", as well as all the other over-the-top language is a joke. I would add "and you know it", but with you one never knows. I admire Mr. Olbermann and that is all. My admiration has to do with his truth telling (while he had a forum to do so) and not with how much he is worth. It has nothing to do with that at all. Although it is possible you're talking about some other Keith Olbermann... one that is a Corporate Democrat and a "wealthy corporate shill". My "shrine" is to a man that (while he was a pundit) opposed Corporate Democrats and absolutely was not their shill. This other Keith Olbermann you speak of... I think you imagined him. Anyway, real or imagined, I have no shrine to the man you describe.<br /><br />I surely do not agree with you about Ayn Rand either. The hero of her novel "Atlas Shrugged" was a rich man who "went on strike" to teach all the poor leaches a lesson. As I recall, RN has said he read it. There is no wisdom within the writings of the late Rand, IMO. Unless you think worshipping wealth is wise. Also, I stand by what I said in the comment you responded to (including what is said on the page I linked to).Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-59395065015202562052014-07-14T11:40:08.606-04:002014-07-14T11:40:08.606-04:00I must actually amend my above comment, concerning...I must actually amend my above comment, concerning hero worship of the wealthy. There IS an example of this in the "Area Blogs". <b>One person actually has a self-described "shrine" to wealthy multi-millionnaire corporate Democrat Keith Olbermann.</b><br /><br />Yes, a shrine, of all things. <br /><br />A shrine is described as <b>"a place regarded as holy because of its associations with a divinity or a sacred person or relic"</b>. Well, there is one example of hero worship of the wealthy. You won't find this from others. Certainly not from Les at "RN", who finds wisdom in the writings of Ayn Rand but has always explicitly distanced himself from worship, adoration, or discipleship. And nothing like this from anyone else toward anyone else. <br /><br />Olbermann, of course, made most of his millions as a shill for GE, a huge defense contractor which controlled NBC and MSNBC for most of the time Olbermann was with it <br /><br />And based on the last recorded count of his riches, he not just a member of the 1%, he is a member of the one tenth of one percent.<br /><br />I would expect that this "Hero Worship" in the form of a shrine to a wealthy corporate shill will be removed forthwith. Anything else would be hypocrisy.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-76286249057568027162014-07-14T10:32:35.787-04:002014-07-14T10:32:35.787-04:00Keith implied that the truth was self evident in h...Keith implied that the truth was self evident in his clumsy diatribe against Pres. Obama. When in doubt, go to Google. I did specifically look up the phrase "Little Hussein", and the first thing that came up was a link to <a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b6_1223842936" rel="nofollow">this video</a> with a racist depiction of Pres. Obama as a monkey nicknamed "Little Hussein". Mystery solved.<br /><br />Now I wonder if Keith sewed this effigy himself?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-81835272994619664732014-07-14T10:25:13.060-04:002014-07-14T10:25:13.060-04:00Keith said: "I should have known by the name ...Keith said: "I should have known by the name that you would understand or recognize standard English, grammar and composition".<br /><br />I do indeed understand or recognize standard English/etc as you just said. Reading what you (Keith) said, this is actually true. Guessing at what you meant, it is hilarious when someone goes all "grammar nazi" and in the process of doing so, makes a blunder to the point where his sentence says exactly the opposite of what he intended to type.<br /><br />"In the future, before posting, I will use an English to Idiot translator."<br /><br />More like "idiot to English". No amount of reading comprehension can discern who you meant when you mentioned "Little Hussein". Pres. Obama is a tall man, after all.<br /><br />As for Ivins, she was no more or and no less funny than Limbaugh. Which is why I mention them in the same breath. Though, of course, there are those with have blind partisanship instead of rational though who favor one over the other.<br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-11008129026046818722014-07-14T10:16:24.001-04:002014-07-14T10:16:24.001-04:00I would agree that hero worship in regards to &quo...I would agree that hero worship in regards to "those people" is not healthy. However, none of it has been practiced by any blogger commenter "in this general area". While some gleefully partake in it, there is no evidence of that in these and "nearby" blogs.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-88377041194588099212014-07-14T10:03:58.098-04:002014-07-14T10:03:58.098-04:00KM, do you have your own blog???KM, do you have your own blog???Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-64496139715555073162014-07-14T09:35:44.948-04:002014-07-14T09:35:44.948-04:00Dervish,
Though our viewpoints are diametrically o...Dervish,<br />Though our viewpoints are diametrically opposed, your comment was excellent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-86504987531992087092014-07-14T09:33:38.581-04:002014-07-14T09:33:38.581-04:00dmarks,
I should have known by the name that you w...dmarks,<br />I should have known by the name that you would understand or recognize standard English, grammar and composition. Notwithstanding, I was attempting to both avoid questions and make commentary. In your regard, the words and usage were evidently a few grade levels too high. In the future, before posting, I will use an English to Idiot translator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-74753578003738027362014-07-12T20:53:26.291-04:002014-07-12T20:53:26.291-04:00You may be happy to hear that Molly Ivins passed a...You may be happy to hear that Molly Ivins passed away in 2007. Although, if she were alive, I really can't see her referring to President Obama as a "little Hussein". In any case, you're mistaking a (former) humorist (someone we laugh with) to someone we laugh at (Limbaugh).Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-14583863092104997292014-07-11T18:14:53.427-04:002014-07-11T18:14:53.427-04:00What about those who have power due to their great...What about those who have power due to their great wealth? Hero worship <a href="http://abnormalecon.blogspot.com/2012/01/hero-worship-as-philosophical-basis-for.html" rel="nofollow">in regards to these people</a> is the "last thing" we need IMHO... yet it appears to me that this kind of hero worship is one some gleefully partake in.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-78500959167186876302014-07-11T16:08:39.937-04:002014-07-11T16:08:39.937-04:00That was so full of buzzwords and Limbaugh-esque t...That was so full of buzzwords and Limbaugh-esque third-grade playground insults that I couldn't quite figure it out.<br /><br />Can't even count the characters. Are "Barry" and "Little Hussein" the same person?<br /><br />This style of language might work in the Limbaugh Letter or a Molly Ivins column, but it is hardly mature enough for the big leagues.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-12650735315158919742014-07-11T15:46:07.086-04:002014-07-11T15:46:07.086-04:00Adding fuel to the raging fires of partisan politi...Adding fuel to the raging fires of partisan political discourse insures a continuing raging blaze that politicians, bloggers (<i>particularly those of the extreme like LR</i>), and party leaders are fine with.<br /><br />Far to many are willfully blind to what is going on and many more are unwilling to make reasonable compromises. We are our own worst enemy and like lemmings marching to the sea this nation will drown itself in its own irrationality.<br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-56659365292989572802014-07-11T15:21:48.396-04:002014-07-11T15:21:48.396-04:00RN,
If the reports are true that Barry, the little...RN,<br />If the reports are true that Barry, the little Hussein, and his minder, Valerie, convince Warren to run, she will. As an Ivory Tower doppelganger of the Left (far left) (farther left) she can't deal with us little people that make up America. The problem for those that might convince her to run is that she will make NO connection with anyone middle class or below and above that she will be seen for the buffoon that she is. If she has any sense, after a horrific loss in Iowa, she will drop out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-56553380893922173202014-07-11T15:14:54.228-04:002014-07-11T15:14:54.228-04:00PS. to Ema Washington PostPS. to Ema Washington PostAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-62298956598056528082014-07-11T15:14:25.633-04:002014-07-11T15:14:25.633-04:00RN,
Interesting article, by a progressive for prog...RN,<br />Interesting article, by a progressive for progressives. The idea that there should be a "limit" on how much wealth one can accumulate is ridiculous at best. Dionne's reference to FDR's quote about the dangers of just that seem odd considering that he contributed to the OTHER side contributing great wealth. Although most businesses are small businesses, the large employers are typically coupled with people of great wealth. <br />The most obvious points though in the consideration of a "cap" on wealth are 1) who decides?<br />2) when this cap is placed, what happens to those whose wealth exceeds the cap 3) when the (inevitable) taxes on the excess don't derive the desired income for the deciders of the cap level, do they increase the tax or lower the level of the cap?<br />The corollary based on the law of unintended consequences, "What about the jobs not created or lost because no one can shoot for the moon any more, only the roof?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-7879461762156166212014-07-11T14:58:24.683-04:002014-07-11T14:58:24.683-04:00RN,
It is unimportant whether one person accumulat...RN,<br />It is unimportant whether one person accumulates $100 Billion (Bill Gates at the height of Microsoft's value) whether he does so by unconstitutional or illegal means such as bribery of theft is the issue. If the sycophants, to his wealth and power, that are in government or the media choose to bend the rules to aid the wealthy in abuse of the middle class, the problem is not being wealthy, the problem is abusing the position to which you have elevated yourself.<br />Most of the top ten percent of wealth rests with an ever changing group. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-64946637784299917322014-07-11T14:46:41.157-04:002014-07-11T14:46:41.157-04:00That's kind of funny, on a number of levels. S...That's kind of funny, on a number of levels. Sadly funny Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430532484632409609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-17482704295513305422014-07-08T23:06:23.837-04:002014-07-08T23:06:23.837-04:00Ema, like so many hyper partisans on both politica...Ema, like so many hyper partisans on both political extremes stick with the agenda and the script. But whenever she visits I just can't help but smile.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-48870152013998204312014-07-08T22:48:34.856-04:002014-07-08T22:48:34.856-04:00If it doesn't come from the New York Times, th...If it doesn't come from the New York Times, the Huffington Post, the Daily Kos, MSNBC, or Salon, it isn't really "news" in Ema's little world.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-17712665900593031472014-07-08T22:43:42.744-04:002014-07-08T22:43:42.744-04:00Just for clarification, I would support Hillary fo...Just for clarification, I would support Hillary for the nomination. In the general I still firmly plan to vote for Gary.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-33465594723213535932014-07-08T14:47:08.895-04:002014-07-08T14:47:08.895-04:00"Unfortunately bipartisanship hasn't sold..."<i>Unfortunately bipartisanship hasn't sold for some time</i>."<br /><br />But sensationalized hype and drama does, and I refuse to be held in thrall by it any longer. I blame mainstream media in part, but also blame ourselves for allowing us to fall sucker to pre-packaged opinion over independent thinking, for listening to spin over fact, for choosing superstition over empiricism, and for pushing tribalism over consensus-based democracy. <br /><br />Hillary, pillory, Post, and a pox on Fox. Hard news shouldn't have to be a hard sell.(O)CT(O)PUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589336822561030860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-13206550947779032062014-07-08T09:20:05.847-04:002014-07-08T09:20:05.847-04:00As you should be, RN. Otherwise it is hero worship...As you should be, RN. Otherwise it is hero worship...which is the last thing we need in regards to those in power.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-34359395692323388692014-07-08T09:12:10.430-04:002014-07-08T09:12:10.430-04:00I removed my comment on Dr. Carson being branded a...I removed my comment on Dr. Carson being branded a failure out of the gate due to his skin color, because it was too off topic. Unrelated to issues involving Warren. My comment also contained a grammatical error, which made it canard-bait.<br /><br />I never remove my comments due to extreme/etc views, since I dont make such comments to begin with.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-384667296419566792014-07-08T09:07:39.198-04:002014-07-08T09:07:39.198-04:00I am a bipartisan critic, carrying no water for an...I am a bipartisan critic, carrying no water for anyone. In addition I point out WD even the best have their wrinkles.<br /><br />Unfortunately bipartisanship hasn't sold for some time. <br /><br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com