tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post189013226850666311..comments2024-03-29T07:18:10.425-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Culture, Education, the Media, and the Romney Loss...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-85776810547812777462012-11-17T13:52:50.735-05:002012-11-17T13:52:50.735-05:00Do you care to share those other and better ways? ...Do you care to share those other and better ways? Philosophy and actions are two different things. <br />I don't know how well Americans are paying attention. I do know who and what they voted for last week. It was clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-12640827440031389812012-11-16T18:16:03.439-05:002012-11-16T18:16:03.439-05:00In response to Anon's comment above, reprinted...In response to Anon's comment above, reprinted below...<br /><br />"The debt now is from not paying for our spending (tax cuts, wars, drug plans, etc). Our future debt will come from entitlement programs. SS has not added one dime to the debt, yet.<br /><br />With Obama's election, the country is not yet ready to give up their social programs. Fine, but it's criminal to keep adding to the debt. If Americans want these programs, then raise taxes to pay for them, and I don't mean just the rich! There's another war coming, and it won't be a false alarm like Iraq. We better get in shape by then."<br /><br />My question then is...<br /><br />Is anybody really paying attention? If so good. However, indications are MOST are not. In which case I suggest you start.<br /><br />Thanks Anon for your appropriate and very timely observations. Although philosophically there are other, and in my opinion better ways than further burdening the hard working taxpayers.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-37662300761452516202012-11-16T15:45:53.532-05:002012-11-16T15:45:53.532-05:00"Both parties share blame fr the fiscal and e..."Both parties share blame fr the fiscal and economic mess we find ourselves in as well as the foreign policy blunders we made.'<br /><br />We need to look closer at fault. We need to know where our mistakes came from, to avoid the same mistakes in the future.<br /><br />Surely Republicans are more responsible for war and debt. Surely Democrats are more responsible for the welfare state and government growth. <br /><br />The debt now is from not paying for our spending (tax cuts, wars, drug plans, etc). Our future debt will come from entitlement programs. SS has not added one dime to the debt, yet.<br /><br />With Obama's election, the country is not yet ready to give up their social programs. Fine, but it's criminal to keep adding to the debt. If Americans want these programs, then raise taxes to pay for them, and I don't mean just the rich! There's another war coming, and it won't be a false alarm like Iraq. We better get in shape by then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29888495763364252262012-11-16T06:08:58.424-05:002012-11-16T06:08:58.424-05:00I see Ema chooses fascism over freedom. I see Ema chooses fascism over freedom. dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-84857695590441323512012-11-16T06:07:04.520-05:002012-11-16T06:07:04.520-05:00Sociliasm is proven most effective at "workin...Sociliasm is proven most effective at "working" to amass the most power for the rulers and crushing the ruled utterly.<br /><br />Nazi Germany, Milosevic's Yugoslavia, Red China,Pol pot are all rather typical examples of socialism, and not the exception.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-57453971386866150602012-11-15T17:34:55.600-05:002012-11-15T17:34:55.600-05:00.
"Care to give an example of this assertion....<br /><br />"Care to give an example of this assertion?"<br /><br />Did I type my comment too fast for you? Try re-reading again. Or have someone read it to you.<br /><br />Can you give an example of a "capitalist" society today that is working? Maybe China?<br /><br />Ema Nymton<br />~@:o?<br />.Ema Nymtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01291372077565212886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80426989275987833052012-11-15T15:04:43.269-05:002012-11-15T15:04:43.269-05:00Ema said:
Maybe because capitalism does not work ...Ema said:<br /><br /><i>Maybe because capitalism does not work and socialism does. Jus sayin.</i><br /><br />Care to give an example of this assertion? Which socialist, top-down society today "works"? Which has in past history? I'd like to know.<br />Left Coast Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292257205859285528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-46694746605277173642012-11-15T08:40:12.253-05:002012-11-15T08:40:12.253-05:00What do we do? Follow CSN's advice and teach ...What do we do? Follow CSN's advice and teach your children well. My kids are hardcore libertarians and thanks to many discussions and 'teachable moments" they can smell political bs a mile away and break down and analyze propaganda and rhetoric.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-88244287116994894742012-11-15T08:18:33.517-05:002012-11-15T08:18:33.517-05:00.
"How else can we explain that more young p....<br /><br />"How else can we explain that more young people now favor socialism to capitalism?"<br /><br />Maybe because capitalism does not work and socialism does. Jus sayin.<br /><br />Could it be the young people see, for a vast number of people throughout the civilized world, socialism works well? Look at countries like Switzerland, Sweden, Canada, Japan, China, South Africa, United Kingdom, France, Korea, Germany, etc who all have positive social welfare programs designed to meet the basic needs of the people are prospering. Then look at the capitalist country of USA under President Obama, who by Bill Bennett's, Murdoch Media/Fox Network's, and your accounts is an absolute utter without redeeming value abject FAILURE.<br /><br />So given a choice, as you have been pointing out for so long, between capitalism (FAILURE) and socialism, why wouldn't young people choose not to go along with failure?<br /><br />Ema Nymton<br />~@:o?<br />.Ema Nymtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01291372077565212886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-63607049510677275962012-11-15T03:30:55.175-05:002012-11-15T03:30:55.175-05:00Bennett's missing the point. These "libe...Bennett's missing the point. These "liberal" institutions did not make us who we are. We are who we are because these are the things that actually happened in our total and real lives. And in reality, conservatism (rightwing-ism, religious radicalism, whatever variety) has often been a disaster for the same demographics over many, many generations. Just as it has benefited a small sum.<br /><br />These is not an invention of liberal institutions. This is reality. I'm sorry Bennett has such a problem with teaching friggin' reality in the schools.<br /><br />JMJ Jersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-59208115124308557152012-11-15T00:37:29.701-05:002012-11-15T00:37:29.701-05:00You are spot-on, Les. On the right we have morons ...You are spot-on, Les. On the right we have morons like Marsha Blackburn saying that we can balance the budget just by cutting nondefense discretionary spending and on the left we have idiots like Raul Grijalva saying that the only thing necessary is allowing the Bush tax-cuts to expire on families making over $250,000 a year (68 billion out of a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit). I personally don't trust either of these 2 parties.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-9799611159951130142012-11-15T00:25:16.601-05:002012-11-15T00:25:16.601-05:00Bennett calls it identity politics. I prefer to ca...Bennett calls it identity politics. I prefer to call it constituency politics and Obama was far more masterful at it than any American President since Roosevelt (free contraception, increased subsidizing of education, multiple goodies for labor unions, etc.). I mean, how the hell else can you explain a President getting reelected with an 8% (10-12% if you include all of the people who have left the labor force since 2008) unemployment rate. Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80821337111715485022012-11-14T21:34:24.674-05:002012-11-14T21:34:24.674-05:00Complex issues dmarks, and I'm sure you agree....Complex issues dmarks, and I'm sure you agree. Right?<br /><br />Problem is, both parties are looking for simple answers and the "quick fix."<br /><br />I'm pretty sure there is none to be found.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the fiscal cliff is closing in. The fall will be real. It won't be fun. Not one bit.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29142539191275449072012-11-14T21:29:26.423-05:002012-11-14T21:29:26.423-05:00Even in 1970, when I was entering college (and was...Even in 1970, when I was entering college (and was a uneducated liberal) I understood the political leanings and agenda of most professors at the time. One would have been deaf and blind not to know.<br /><br />But what do we know Silver? After all, aren't we just uneducated conservative sheeple that mindlessly, like ventriloquists act as mouth pieces for the delusional right. <br /><br />When it comes to sheeplehood and ventriloquism nobody does it better than the progressives. All one needs to know this is the truth is to visit progressives sites daily to confirm it.<br /><br />Having said the above I can safely say there are conservatives that wear the label as well. And just as proudly. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-84940601853539941372012-11-14T21:17:28.829-05:002012-11-14T21:17:28.829-05:00Thing about partisanship Anon is that it is univer...Thing about partisanship Anon is that it is universal.<br /><br />Both parties share blame fr the fiscal and economic mess we find ourselves in as well as the foreign policy blunders we made.<br /><br />Only a true partisan would deny this.<br /><br />So, the solution? Congress and the Senate need to get busy and get the country's sh*t together... Soon. Or just maybe the American electorate will finally wake up, get its sh*t together, and vote the bast*rds out of office.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-25266961852980553202012-11-14T18:28:40.056-05:002012-11-14T18:28:40.056-05:00Anon said: "Republican policies have ruled fo...Anon said: "Republican policies have ruled for decades. Not only fiscal policies, which have been a proven failure, but their foreign policies have only led to war."<br /><br />Sometimes really silly statements need to be correct. The fiscal policies are a proven success, such as the Bush muddle class tax cuts... there was strong revenue growth after they were passed. That's just one example.<br /><br />As for "leading to war", lets look at the most famous and recent example. It was the Clinton policy to ignore and not take seriously threats from terrorists. This led to the 9/11 incident, which resulted from Bush mistakenly continuing the Clinton policies. This war was left for Bush. dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-55344729750224272842012-11-14T17:15:06.509-05:002012-11-14T17:15:06.509-05:00Who teaches the young and what do we teach them?
...<i>Who teaches the young and what do we teach them?</i><br /><br />Bingo!<br /><br />Progressives took that over 100 years ago.<br /><br />Mission Accomplished.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-77878750965117330972012-11-14T16:15:36.943-05:002012-11-14T16:15:36.943-05:00Bennet's suppositions are not supported by the...Bennet's suppositions are not supported by the facts.<br />If Democrats have been winning the "identity" war for decades, how does he explain the success of Republicans at the polls? <br />Republican majority moved in (1990's) after years of being the minority. Republicans have held the White House for 20 out of the last 32 years.<br />Republican policies have ruled for decades. Not only fiscal policies, which have been a proven failure, but their foreign policies have only led to war. <br />Yes, Americans have given Republicans more than enough chance to institute their policies. It's time Republicans concede and realize their policies have failed. Americans have conceded that, and told Republicans that through the last two presidential elections.<br />War on women? Voters believe that, because Republicans have proven it through their legislative efforts and their oratory over the decades, especially this election year with all its talk of rape and contraception, which most Americans don't think should be law, but left to choice by individuals. . <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com