tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post1539313254504004170..comments2024-03-29T07:18:10.425-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Political Quotes To Ponder...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-53702627486178126612014-02-24T12:10:00.068-05:002014-02-24T12:10:00.068-05:00Ayn Rand: There are two sides to every issue: one ...Ayn Rand: There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.<br /><br />Of course as always Rand was correct. The key Mr. Sanders is determining which side is right based on sound philosophy and then siding with and fightg for the right side.<br /><br />Bada Bing!<br /><br />Now go back tO work Mr. Sanders.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-91069543102855798822014-02-24T10:38:23.920-05:002014-02-24T10:38:23.920-05:00George W. Bush: I think I was unprepared for war.
...<a href="http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushquotes/a/dumbbushquotes.htm" rel="nofollow">George W. Bush</a>: I think I was unprepared for war.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aynrand387290.html" rel="nofollow">Ayn Rand</a>: There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.<br /><br /><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/03/333912/reagan-tax-loopholes-crazy/" rel="nofollow">Ronald Reagan</a>: We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that's crazy.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/markudall505401.html" rel="nofollow">Mark Udall</a>: I brag on the Democratic Party. We're libertarian on social issues, it's live and let live. Fiscally, we're conservative and responsible, and were environmentally conscious.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-41060316176240771022014-02-23T20:50:28.627-05:002014-02-23T20:50:28.627-05:00Mr. Sanders, having made his point said he is lett...Mr. Sanders, having made his point said he is letting it sit there. Thank you, nothing further need be said.<br /><br />dmarks & Will, having made your points it will be appreciated if they just sit there as well.<br /><br />Not desiring a food fight it is now best to move on to something positive again.<br /><br />Thank you,<br />The ManagementLes Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-3963224274480459482014-02-23T19:10:30.991-05:002014-02-23T19:10:30.991-05:00Perhaps, Will, if we want to junk it up with more...Perhaps, Will, if we want to junk it up with more crazies who get stuff wrong as Stalin did. Or we could get back on track with some more wisdom like we consistently had here until the Stalin quote opened the crapgate. Got any more good ones, Will?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-593163388136432632014-02-23T18:43:29.636-05:002014-02-23T18:43:29.636-05:00Who you gonna quote next, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Ami...Who you gonna quote next, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-48208455076419772202014-02-23T11:21:36.138-05:002014-02-23T11:21:36.138-05:00RN: I was willing to give Mr. Sanders the benefit ...<i>RN: I was willing to give Mr. Sanders the benefit of the doubt... Until this.</i><br /><br />Until what? Quoting someone is not "defending" them. What Stalin said is true, but RN's description of him is also true. And Dennis saying I defend the "other one also" is baloney as I've never defended any mass murderers, unlike him. I'm talking about the mass murderer that Dennis says "told the truth and saved lives", BTW. This is a fact that I am just stating and letting sit there.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29555856972697234432014-02-22T23:26:48.204-05:002014-02-22T23:26:48.204-05:00Bierce was awesome and hopefully he didn't suf...Bierce was awesome and hopefully he didn't suffer too greatly at the hands of Villa and the Zapatistas.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-87359053598287618892014-02-22T18:57:27.640-05:002014-02-22T18:57:27.640-05:00Will said: "One of the top 2 mass murderers o...Will said: "One of the top 2 mass murderers of the 20th Century and wd...." He has defended the other one, also. Just stating that fact and letting it sit there...perhaps it can be said that I am giving that dead horse a kick. But no, not going to saddle it up.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-83293803924549851962014-02-22T18:53:13.661-05:002014-02-22T18:53:13.661-05:00RN: Mr. Sanders' quotation from Stalin about &...RN: Mr. Sanders' quotation from Stalin about " Mankind is divided into rich and poor" is ironic, but in a way Mr. Sanders probably does not recognize. This is because, more than any other man in human history (with the exception of Mao). the division between the rich (Stalin) and the poor (everyone else in the USSR) was the biggest. He was the "property owner" (again, from the quote) of every single inch of USSR land (and many colonies besides) and everyone else was exploited: all by his will and effort.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-43076377301730981652014-02-22T18:50:18.522-05:002014-02-22T18:50:18.522-05:00In line with Will's statesmen quote:
"&q...In line with Will's statesmen quote:<br /><br />""If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."<br /><br />- Attributed, perhaps falsely, to Winston Churchill.<br /><br />Bierce is a source for a lot of cynical observations. His "Devil's Dictionary" has long since fallen into public domain and is easily found and searched. Here is one more from Bierce:<br /><br />"POLITICIAN, n. An eel in the fundamental mud upon which the superstructure of organized society is reared. When he wriggles he mistakes the agitation of his tail for the trembling of the edifice. As compared with the statesman, he suffers the disadvantage of being alive."dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-64645066699410383972014-02-22T18:47:57.000-05:002014-02-22T18:47:57.000-05:00Indeed Will. I was willing to give Mr. Sanders the...Indeed Will. I was willing to give Mr. Sanders the benefit of the doubt... Until this. There can now be NO question as to this degenerates motives This dude is as bad as Nugent. Only in different ways.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-40539336302589272762014-02-22T18:43:49.292-05:002014-02-22T18:43:49.292-05:00Excellent, thanks for the additions!Excellent, thanks for the additions!Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-11271636839555114282014-02-22T18:42:57.951-05:002014-02-22T18:42:57.951-05:00Will, both are EXCELLENT quotes and so very true! ...Will, both are EXCELLENT quotes and so very true! Thanks for adding them to the list!Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-81242784004805711502014-02-22T17:43:35.558-05:002014-02-22T17:43:35.558-05:00One of the top 2 mass murderers of the 20th Centur...One of the top 2 mass murderers of the 20th Century and wd is somehow gleaning wisdom from the fellow? That's embarrassing, even for wd (though it does confirm what we always knew about him; that he doesn't respect an individual's private property).Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-55112319503566071352014-02-22T17:38:46.366-05:002014-02-22T17:38:46.366-05:00"Conservative - a statesman who is enamored o..."Conservative - a statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from a liberal, who wishes to replace then with others." Ambrose Bierce (brilliantly portrayed by Gregory Peck in the movie, "Old Gringo") - that's my personal favorite.......And I also like this one; "I predict future happiness for the American people if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-2382499270547492712014-02-21T15:34:19.965-05:002014-02-21T15:34:19.965-05:00and Les, how about wisdom from unlikely sources? A...and Les, how about wisdom from unlikely sources? As in, no-one tends to think of former President James Earl Carter as a great quotable mind. But here he is:<br /><br />"Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things - he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies."<br /><br />"War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn how to live together in peace by killing each other's children."dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-46769177084085541962014-02-21T15:28:12.770-05:002014-02-21T15:28:12.770-05:00Jersey, your expression of hatred for the mentally...Jersey, your <a href="http://www.r-word.org/" rel="nofollow">expression of hatred for the mentally disabled</a> is a strange non-sequitur. Regardless, my link was very appropriate as just one of the countless pieces of evidence that shows that liberals/the left use the politics of fear just as conservatives do. It handily deflates your careless generalization. If there is any weakness, it is because the link was rather <i>old</i>. But that was done on purpose, as FDR was the subject at the time.<br /><br />Here is another quote from a great politician, this one a liberal also:<br /><br /><b>"The moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life . . . the children; those who are in the twilight of life . . . the elderly; and those who are in the shadow of life . . . the sick . . . the needy . . . and the disabled."</b><br /> <br />I strongly agree with what Humphrey said, and always will.<br /><br />I doubt HHH would do as Jersey did here and use terms for the disabled as a generic and vague insult as if people with disabilities were to be despised.<br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-8031237559505065622014-02-21T13:05:19.960-05:002014-02-21T13:05:19.960-05:00dmarks, your link is retarded.
JMJdmarks, your link is retarded.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-8631238395622743442014-02-21T07:58:18.961-05:002014-02-21T07:58:18.961-05:00"Precisely because radio and TV have become o..."Precisely because radio and TV have become our principal sources of news and information, we should accord broadcasters the utmost freedom in order to insure a truly free press." Mario Cuomo, 1993.<br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-67053440971837681282014-02-21T07:56:00.238-05:002014-02-21T07:56:00.238-05:00Jersey said: "Without fear, there'd be no...Jersey said: "Without fear, there'd be no conservatism."<br /><br />Nor would there be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment" rel="nofollow">liberalism</a>.<br /><br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-73208887024553290292014-02-21T07:54:34.624-05:002014-02-21T07:54:34.624-05:00Relevant to the theme of compromise and pragmatism...<br />Relevant to the theme of compromise and pragmatism that comes up on this blog from time to time:<br /><br />"Republicans and Democrats have used accounting gimmicks and competing government analyses to deceive the public into believing that 2 + 2 = 6. If our leaders cannot agree on the numbers, if 'facts' are fictional, how can they possibly have a substantive debate on solutions?"<br />- Congressman J. C. Watts.<br /><br />Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/j_c_watts.html#viTIIcsrGS4VdPBz.99"dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-87323834537734564612014-02-21T02:14:27.572-05:002014-02-21T02:14:27.572-05:00FDR understood the futility of fear, and the idioc...FDR understood the futility of fear, and the idiocy that promulgates it. He is most despised by the Right for this. Without fear, there'd be no conservatism. <br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-51214894413568468552014-02-20T20:58:52.410-05:002014-02-20T20:58:52.410-05:00How did I know Mr. Sanders would manage to slide a...How did I know Mr. Sanders would manage to slide a Stalin quote into the mix? One of the world's worst and most brutal tyrants. As well as a frigging hypocrite.<br /><br /><br /><br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-282947238177020602014-02-20T19:48:17.782-05:002014-02-20T19:48:17.782-05:00Lord Acton: Property is not the sacred right. When...Lord Acton: Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality.<br /><br />Aristotle: The beginning of reform is not so much to equalize property as to train the noble sort of natures not to desire more, and to prevent the lower from getting more.<br /><br />Joseph Stalin: Mankind is divided into rich and poor, into property owners and exploited; and to abstract oneself from this fundamental division; and from the antagonism between poor and rich means abstracting oneself from fundamental facts.<br /><br />Woodrow Wilson: Property as compared with humanity, as compared with the red blood in the American people, must take second place, not first place.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-33141041126512296292014-02-20T19:35:46.196-05:002014-02-20T19:35:46.196-05:00Many hold that property, specifically land, is mad...Many hold that property, specifically land, is made available by a divine creator who created the heavens and the earth. Therefore, it could be argued that property is "owned" in equal share by the inhabitants of the earth as he created all humankind equal.<br /><br /> Or, given the earth was created by the omnipotent creator it is thus owened by him and merely on loan to humankind at his/her pleasure. Therefore no one can really own land.<br /><br />No, I'm not going off the rails here, as I consider both bunk. However I could argue both given the time to develop the argument. But I'll leave that to Mr. Dervish. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com