tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post1492213628350725454..comments2024-03-28T03:00:07.229-04:00Comments on Rational Nation USA: Sarah Palin Said What?...Les Carpenterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-77695440331321905972013-11-18T09:51:48.426-05:002013-11-18T09:51:48.426-05:00The death panel facist solution? Really dmarks, Is...The death panel facist solution? Really dmarks, Isn't it time to move past the hyperdole and scare tactic methodology?<br /><br />ACA is a flawed system and at my age I know many people on Medicare with the Advantage Plan ( wife included) and have yet heard them talk about death panels, complain about their Medicare, or say anything about lack or choice. In fact between Medigap and Advantage I believe there are 7 choices, I just attended an info meeting by HNE.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-4129006536755410762013-11-18T07:56:18.629-05:002013-11-18T07:56:18.629-05:00"And many of the arguments against it only re..."And many of the arguments against it only reinforce the need for a Public Option, Medicare Buy-In, or a flat-out universal system"<br /><br />Sorry, Jersey, there is no "need" for the death-panel fascist solution of single payer. Though some night deceptively sell such a "need" to destroy healthcare and take away all of our choices.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-80885993446037324882013-11-18T07:55:01.097-05:002013-11-18T07:55:01.097-05:00"The sad fact is that the GOP had no alternat..."The sad fact is that the GOP had no alternative plan to get the out-of-control health care costs"<br /><br />The sad thing is that it is not a fact. Their alternative plan included most definite reforms that would have reduced costs: getting rid of the frivolous lawsuits, and getting rid of the regulations that prevent healthcare providers from competing across state borders.<br /><br />"She's not worth my time to comment on any of her idiocy."<br /><br />Good, So you won't repeat your past bashing her for wearing boots.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-65588518654468124242013-11-14T10:33:03.258-05:002013-11-14T10:33:03.258-05:00ACA is what we have because no other plan was ever...ACA is what we have because no other plan was ever vocalized in a coherent manner. Sociallized medicine is a great draw for the low info voter because they think it is free. It may not cost in up front cash, but it does cost in lives cut short due to unavailability of care. If you want to change the system then now is the time to implement cross state policies and tort reform to reduce costs. We all know that the big the pool the lower the cost. If you can insure people all over the country from one office vice 50 then you cut overhead and reduce cost again. If you have a single set of coverage laws vice 51 then you can reduce cost. I can go on and on about ways to make health care cheaper without full governmental control, sure if states want special policies then the cost will go up for their people, but the people would decide via their local politicians vice the career criminals in Washington.Sandy Salthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11201515464176920513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-8040728799389312352013-11-13T16:13:04.456-05:002013-11-13T16:13:04.456-05:00Sure, she's good looking: all that socialized...Sure, she's good looking: all that socialized Canadian healthcare she got as a kid. :)BB-Idahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388509941702241290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-58397751212267071592013-11-13T01:00:36.253-05:002013-11-13T01:00:36.253-05:00Obamacare stinks (the fact that it is laced with p...Obamacare stinks (the fact that it is laced with perverse incentives, cronyism, regulatory insanity, etc.) and Palin is an idiot. The 2 are hardly mutually exclusiveWill "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-33848591515597015252013-11-12T14:07:02.265-05:002013-11-12T14:07:02.265-05:00Any time you have someone calling the care and fee...Any time you have someone calling the care and feeding of foe profit insurers, "socialized medicine", it just becomes too dreary.<br /><br />How long before this bimbo appears on "Dancing with the Stars"? <br /><br />She's all yours Republicans because the noise machine loves this kind of obfuscation.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-91018357872012296932013-11-12T12:21:52.927-05:002013-11-12T12:21:52.927-05:00Les, Palin is on the right wing lunatic fringe of ...Les, Palin is on the right wing lunatic fringe of the idiot set. What I'm saying is accepted as reality by probably around 4 or 5 billion people.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-90695241808839929632013-11-12T10:01:30.581-05:002013-11-12T10:01:30.581-05:00Ah, you got me. No confusion, just amusement at th...Ah, you got me. No confusion, just amusement at the way the T-Pers of the far ight seem to view her every platitude and disjointed rambling as something of substance.<br /><br />Palin has turned into a provocateur and she's making good money at it. But if a certaon segment want her boilerplate stuff, for whatever reason, they are certainly entitled to it.<br /><br />Personally, I think Palin should reveive an Academy Award for Best Political Shill of the Tea Party Movement. But, that's just my opinion. <br /><br />Damn, she's looking good though, and fit. Perhaps she'll be hawking fitness DVD's soon.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-29472716901000356522013-11-12T09:30:05.463-05:002013-11-12T09:30:05.463-05:00Les, What is your confusion at the 1:30 mark?Les, What is your confusion at the 1:30 mark?Christopher - Conservative Perspectivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14102651466203156040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-457252835738289692013-11-12T07:42:50.422-05:002013-11-12T07:42:50.422-05:00Wow! Hot damn... Could you please provide irrefuta...Wow! Hot damn... Could you please provide irrefutable data to support your sweeping generalizations? Because you're simply in the same looney waters as Palin is.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-76951338008032424812013-11-12T04:16:05.826-05:002013-11-12T04:16:05.826-05:00I think the ACA has been way overblown by the Righ...I think the ACA has been way overblown by the Right. Most Americans are essentially unaffected by it. There are certainly some upsides to it. And many of the arguments against it only reinforce the need for a Public Option, Medicare Buy-In, or a flat-out universal system. The American people actually do want that, and by all rational measures, it's what we need. The main differences between our healthcare system and all the other systems out there is that it cost a lot more and it's mostly private. Healthcare is a right and a national insurance plan should protect it. We just haven't caught up with the rest of the world on that.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-47466253750437291042013-11-11T22:31:43.335-05:002013-11-11T22:31:43.335-05:00Oh, Sarah still has her looks. Oh, Sarah still has her looks. Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-5404341250250407592013-11-11T22:29:20.099-05:002013-11-11T22:29:20.099-05:00Mitt Romney governed MA as a moderate Republican g...Mitt Romney governed MA as a moderate Republican governor and he had a solidly Democratic House and Senate he had to work with. What ultimately became RomneyCare had the stamp of democrats as well.<br /><br />IMO one of the problems with the ACA on the national stage is national Republican lawmakers solidly believe the federal government should not be mandating health insurance legislation for states in a one size fits all senario. Right or wrong such as it may be it is what it is.<br /><br />You are likely correct in saying that had Republicans calculated they would not win the day and adopted a posistion of actively working with Democrats the end results with ACA probably have been better and more widely accepted.<br /><br />As it is we have a lousey piece of legislation, a piss poor initial implementation, greater division in the country, a platform to continue to drive wedge issues, and a government and president losing credibility.<br /><br />I tire of the inability of the partisans to act constructively. We the People are ultimately responsible. Just imagine if we had 90% voter turnout, consistently at local, state, and national elections. That and if we could muster the wherewithal to force the corrupting influence of money out of politics and governance. But neither is goining to happen.<br /><br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8549971354391868786.post-8456680042302145152013-11-11T21:11:03.851-05:002013-11-11T21:11:03.851-05:00The sad fact is that the GOP had no alternative pl...The sad fact is that the GOP had no alternative plan to get the out-of-control health care costs under control The A.C.A. was based on Republican Governor Romney's plan for Massachusetts and the conservative Heritage Foundation plan, so the A.C.A. was a conservative Republican plan, in essence. But because a Democratic president initiated it and a Democratic House and Senate passed it, it became something that the GOP decided was unacceptable. Perhaps if the two parties has worked together, something better would have been built. I don't know the answer. I do know that this constant "at-each others'-throats" got us nothing, and is pulling us all down.<br /><br />I've nothing to say about Palin. She's not worth my time to comment on any of her idiocy.Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.com