Wednesday, June 15, 2016

Again the NRA and Trump Are Lyng...

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Here we go again. Complements of the NRA and Donald Trump.


Fairfax, Va.— The executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox, released the following statement regarding terror watchlists:

We are happy to meet with Donald Trump. The NRA's position on this issue has not changed. The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.

President Obama's stated position.

Regarding a Constitutional right to guns, Obama says:


Obama, "Sportsmen": Barack Obama believes the Second Amendment creates an individual right, and he respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms. He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns.


On the issue of urban policy, Obama says he favors "commonsense measures" to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children, and that he would bring back the expired "assault weapon" ban and make it permanent:


Obama, "Urban Policy": Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

For the unemotional and cool headed person, one that observes reality, it is clear that the NRA and Donald Trump are the ones who ...would prefer to play politics with this issue.

Reinstituting the 1994 "assault weapons" ban, universal background checks, and closing loopholes is not banning firearms or gutting the Second Amendment. The only folks hurt by banning assault style large capacity weapons would be the manufacturers and the NRA who, as we all know, are in the manufacturers hip pocket and love to play politics on their behalf.

It is time this nation actually engages in a non political and rational discussion on the issue of sensible and rational firearm regulation and control.

Sources HEREand HERE.

7 comments:

  1. The self-proclaimed Great Negotiator meets with the people who gave us Saturday night specials, mega magazines, concealed and open carry just about everywhere, even national parks, the pitch that every
    'real man' needs an arsenal for 'defense' and banned the NIH from collecting any data on firearms death.
    He says he's great, we know they are unbelievably formidable: for the crumb of banning sales to known
    terrorist, what is Drumf giving up? My guess, an excise tax on the 50% of citizens who own no firearm.

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  2. If they are on a terrorist watchlist, they have already been investigated. Being on a terrorist watchlist is sufficient reason to not allow them to buy any type of gun...or any weapon for that matter.

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  3. Jerry... there are people on the no-fly list, which is the list HRC cites when talking about this, who are there erroneously. Even Ted Kennedy was on it at one point.

    Once on that list, it is very difficult to convince the gov you are there in error, which could infringe upon your right to have a gun.

    Even though I agree with the premise of "if you can't get on a plane, you shouldn't have a gun," I've got to acknowledge we might have some issues there regarding due process.

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    1. There are mistakes made on every list. The solution is to make the list better not ignore it.

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  4. Here's why I find the worrying about innocent people not being able to buy a weapon because they were erroneously put on the no-fly list so puzzling: I've never heard as many people worry about innocent men or women being given the death penalty because of mistakes in evidence or bad lawyering or even crooked cops. Yet those errors have actually caused Americans to lose their lives. Yet many states keep the death penalty on the books, because, well I guess they feel a few deaths of innocents by mistake is worth keeping the death penalty for the real criminals who commit heinous crimes. In my world, not being allowed to buy a weapon is hardly as horrifying as killing an innocent person by way of capital punishment because of misconduct by law enforcement or any other reason. I guess what I'm trying to say is that people accept that -- where there could be a loss of life, but they seem to be horrified by the loss of owning a weapon.

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  5. We blame mental illness, we blame Muslims, we blame anger...but we dare not blame firearms. Guns dont' kill
    ....so, what ARE they for? IMO, the NRA has fostered a gun culture, wrapped in a constitutional amendment
    written with a quill about weapons with a flintlock by a people who lived in borderline wilderness-and made
    the concept sacrosanct. Background checks are required for school volunteers, employment, credit etc, but not
    rapid fire, high capacity firearms. We need licenses, pay taxes, require training, need references and pass scrutiny for many things-but not rapid fire, high capacity firearms. Over 60% of US families don't have them,
    don't need them, don't want them; in fact most weapons belong to people who have several. Even among the
    gun owners, the majority favor at least background checks (and they should, the violent few giving them all
    a bad name). Somehow, in this country, where the rights of a minority are protected, this particular minority tramples the rights of the majority. And so it continues, the collateral damage.

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  6. Over 60% of US families don't have them,
    don't need them, don't want them; in fact most weapons belong to people who have several. Even among the
    gun owners, the majority favor at least background checks (and they should, the violent few giving them all
    a bad name). Somehow, in this country, where the rights of a minority are protected, this particular minority tramples the rights of the majority. And so it continues, the collateral damage.


    Borderline insanity, if not complete insanity methinks.

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