Saturday, August 29, 2015

Trump Representing the Disgrunteld American...

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Trump the Rump tapping into, and whipping up the seething discontent that many Americans feel. A large part of which is the Tea Party wing of the GOP and it's active obstruction of the Obama presidency, Which by the way was put in place by the American people not once, but twice. Scratching my heads trying to figure out what it is Trump the Rump fails to understand about democratic election results.

BTW, can anyone tell me exactly what, if anything Trump the Rump said of any substance? Other than a whole lot of people are pissed off.

No substance. All blustery brawn. Dude is nothin more than a wealthy loudmouth without a serious plan.

In other words, the blind wanting to lead the blind.



Article BELOW THE FOLD.

Via: Memeorandum



25 comments:

  1. "No substance. All blustery brawn."

    Isn't that's what the Tea Party has been about all along? It has spread throughout the republican party. They are all about "No substance. All blustery brawn".

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  2. Actually Jerry, in its infancy it had s one good points. Concern with ballooning deficits and the growing national debt are responsible concerns. As are growing reliance on the government. Unfortunately the TP started going astray in a sort time.

    We are now so polarized there likely is little chance the division can be overcome.

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    1. I think you give them more credit in their infancy than they deserve. However, now I believe we are in agreement.

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    2. The Tea Party movement started out with a financial reporter complaining that Obama was going to try to help homeowners who's mortgages were falling under water and into default because of scumbags like that reporter. That movement was born on the plane of Hell where rabid cannibal weasels endless feed on one another.

      JMJ

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    3. Colorful and highly partisan rhetoric Jersey.

      A journalist or politician you certainly ain't.

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    4. The Tea Party was a Koch-funded astroturf scam from the get-go. Tea partiers are dupes who allowed themselves to be manipulated... due to racist hate (some had) for Obama. Trump, with his racist (birther) hate for Obama and racist hate for raping hispanic "illegals" is a natural match for the Tea Party. Of course he's going after their votes!

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    5. Far be it for Jersey to blame the irresponsible idiots who intentionally took out extravagant mortgages they couldn't hope to pay.

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    6. The Tea Party, like it it or not, was a grass roots movement with little Koch involvement (to the point that without the Koch Bros, it would have been as large) and no racism. Far from being "dupes" at least in the beginning, they lost sight of their positive aims and qualities (which were documented years ago on the "Rational Nation" blog). and degraded into crass party politics.

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    7. I don't know dmarks. There is a lot of evidence out there of early and large funding by the Kochs and other ultra conservative groups of early tea party activities. The money had to come from somewhere.

      What's more likely? The tea party people themselves or well funded people who benefit from their activities? My money is on the latter.

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    8. Jerry, I just read an account yesterday about how one Wall Street investor started the Tea Party. So we've had 3 or 4 origins mentioned here alone. The answer might be all of the above: it has been almost all the time an amorphous beast with different "well funded" interests trying to control it, take credit for it, or feed off it.

      At least at the meetings I saw, at that time the "well funded" would have gone broke there: anti-corporate welfare, anti wall street was the dominant theme.

      Regardless of all of this, the face of the party now has corn silk hair and a lamprey mouth... might as well call them all the "Tearumplicans", and in my view this is crystalizing and amplifying the worst of what the Tea Party has been all along.

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    9. This is crystallizing and amplifying the worst of what the Tea Party has been all along? With Trump we know that among the "worst" is racism, but you previously said "The Tea Party... was a grassroots movement with... no racism". Which is it?

      Anyway, dmarks' partisan biases are showing... with OWS he gives one example of an "antisemitic" protester (Lotion Man) and says the entire OWS movement is antisemitic. With the Tea Party, examples of racism are plentiful and easy to find... and yet dmarks says "no racism".

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    10. I hear old bones crunching....

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    11. I fail to understand how whatever dmarks hears wherever he is has any relevance to this conversation. Not knowing why he's hearing this strange noise... maybe he should get his ears checked?

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    12. I'm sure Les wants to see us go into dozens of "seen them all before" comments about Lotion Man and OWS... because they are so relevant to the Trump/Republicans/ the Tea Party topic of this post...

      Nah. I've read the rules on this blog. Enjoy this conversation with yourself.

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    13. How can never made comments be "seen them all before"? dmarks has never explained how he determined that Lotion Man represents the entire OWS movement. Or how many many Tea Partiers with racist signs equals "no racism". In any case, the "rules on this blog" that dmarks read? They are rules he wrote himself, I suspect. I know I've never seen this rule concerning "seen them all before" imaginary comments.

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    14. This post has nothing to with "Lotion Man" or OWS. Further discussion of either will not be posted.

      Thanks for your understanding.

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    15. This post has nothing to with "Lotion Man" or OWS. Further discussion of either will not be posted.

      Thanks for your understanding.

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  3. Partisan? It's what happened in real life, Les. Don't you remember? Speaking of partisan, most all the Tea Party people were Republicans, and far right-wingers at that, and ethno-nationalists masquerading as budget hawks (they said little about Bush doubling the budget). I may not be a professional pol or pundit, but I wasn't born yesterday.

    JMJ

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    1. Nor was I Jersey, and I didn't you were either.

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    2. Jersey is not too far off, other than the inaccurate, misused-to-the-point-of-meaninglessness "far right" part.

      The Tea Party movement was from the start very partisanly Republican. I heard many times boosters say it was drawing from Democrats too, but it looked like wishful thinking.

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  4. August 29, 2015


    From PM Carpenter's blog:

    "Trump's bubble within a bubble

    Today, reports The Hill, "Trump argued he is surging in national polls because he represents the Tea Party supporters ignored by Democrats and betrayed by Republicans."

    In Trump's own words: "The Tea Party has tremendous power. It’s Democrats, it is evangelicals, it is everybody."

    At the end of 2014 (last data available), Gallup showed national support of the Tea Party movement at 19 percent. A CBS News poll had it 15 percent, in May of that year.

    You know … Everybody!"

    Trump makes a pronouncement and no one challenges it, the media report it, and everyone believes it's fact. Trump doesn't deal in facts, he deals in demagoguery, exaggerations, and even lies. Did the evangelicals like his dodge on citing his favorite Bible verse after bragging that the Bible is his favorite book? Couldn't come up with one verse so he dodged it by saying "it's personal." All the other GOP candidates would be able to rattle off several verses because they actually read the Bible. Trump's just being his natural b.s.ing self on this, too, and the evangelicals give him a pass.

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    1. Shaw: The huge disconnect between Trump and the "so-cons" can only be ignored for so long. I don't think it will will swept under the rug for much more time.

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    2. I don't know, dmarks. We've seen ethnic nationalism trump religiosity before (pun intended).

      JMJ

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    3. Could be. I bow to your Trump prognostication for the time being, Jersey. Ever since I said he would not run, and you insisted that he would...

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    4. I don't know who "PM Carpenter" is. And nothing in Shaw's comment seems to be a link. As for the huge disconnect between Trump and the so-cons being ignored, aren't they sweeping it under the rug themselves because their racism is more important to them than their social conservatism? What this points to, IMO, is that it was always racism that was/is at the heart of the Tea Party. This also explains why it was so easy for the Kochs to dupe them.

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